[boost] Re: Inter-FSM protocol discussion

2003-06-08 Thread Chris Russell
Hi Scott, point well taken. I think we're talking at different levels in the great abstraction foodchain. When you speak of protocols, you're talking about a specification (like one published by the ITU) that you need to implement. If I understand you correctly, you're saying that in practice you

[boost] Re: Re: another program option feature request

2003-06-08 Thread Vladimir Prus
Pavol Droba wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 09:08:37AM +0400, Vladimir Prus wrote: >> Hi Pavol, >> >> > I have a request regarding config file support in the program option >> > library. Currently when the parser encounters an unknown option in the >> > config file, parsing is stopped with an ex

Re: [boost] Re: another program option feature request

2003-06-08 Thread Pavol Droba
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 09:08:37AM +0400, Vladimir Prus wrote: > Hi Pavol, > > > I have a request regarding config file support in the program option > > library. Currently when the parser encounters an unknown option in the > > config file, parsing is stopped with an exception. > > Together with

[boost] Question about lexical_stream::operator<< and >>

2003-06-08 Thread Adrian Michel
This question may sound silly for you boost veterans, but here it is nonetheless. As a general matter, I am interested in boost from a consumer rather than contributor standpoint (at least for now) so my questions will be very practical in nature. I #included and in my code, and they indirectly

[boost] compiler status page proposition

2003-06-08 Thread Gennadiy Rozental
Hi, It may be convinient fr backward references to have an anchors in compiler status page marking beggining of each library. What you think? Gennadiy. ___ Unsubscribe & other changes: http://lists.boost.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/boost

[boost] Re: Re: Command Line & Config review results

2003-06-08 Thread Vladimir Prus
Petr Ko?m?d wrote: > On Thursday 05 of June 2003 15:38, Vladimir Prus wrote: >> Aleksey Gurtovoy wrote: >> > I think the general conclusion was that one should be able to use both >> > 'char' and 'wchar_t' versions of the library facilities in the same >> > program. >> Ehm... in fact I gleaned qui

[boost] Re: another program option feature request

2003-06-08 Thread Vladimir Prus
Hi Pavol, > I have a request regarding config file support in the program option > library. Currently when the parser encounters an unknown option in the > config file, parsing is stopped with an exception. > Together with fixed option definition, this feature disables a possibility > to have an a

Re: [boost] Inter-FSM protocol discussion

2003-06-08 Thread Scott Woods
> "A category is given by two pieces of data: a class of objects and, for any > two objects X and Y, a set of morphisms from X to Y." > > What I was trying to suggest is that the objects in the category are FSM's, > and the set of morphisms defined for any two FSM's X and Y is a concept that > need

Re: [boost] Re: Re: Some questions on the FSM submission

2003-06-08 Thread Scott Woods
Hi Jeff, > for a telecom product. It was great if what you were doing fit well into SDL, > but plugging in say an std::list was a nightmare -- basically undoable (C > wrappers and such). He hated every minute. Me too :-))) > 4) I think you are right that your submission can cover most of the >

[boost] RE: Interest in library generating streambufs from objects

2003-06-08 Thread Jonathan D. Turkanis
Thanks for your interest. I have posted the library at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boost/files/streambuf_lib/. The implementation needs to be streamlined, but it works, and the main ideas are clear enough. Robert Ramey wrote: > I think it would be more interesting if the following were consider

Re: [boost] Re: Re: Re: Some questions on the FSM submission

2003-06-08 Thread Scott Woods
Hi Andreas, > I don't know what part in the UML specs you're referring to (I don't really > know UML apart from class diagrams and state charts). A quick search did not > reveal much apart from protocol state machines which AFAICT don't have > anything to do with FSM interaction. Confusion is (a

Re: [boost] Re: Math Constants Formal Review

2003-06-08 Thread Beman Dawes
At 01:57 PM 6/8/2003, Gennaro Prota wrote: >On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 15:56:53 +0100, "Paul A Bristow" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>If someone would like to do this, I'd be grateful. >> >>(Memories of how to use commandlines and CVS have decayed). > >IIUC, the boost sandbox is, so to speak, a more prec

Re: [boost] Command Line & Config review results

2003-06-08 Thread Beman Dawes
At 10:48 AM 6/4/2003, Vladimir Prus wrote: >Aleksey Gurtovoy wrote: >> >> b) resolving the 'wchar_t' support issue before the library makes into >>official Boost distribution. > >I'm actually not that happy about solving general issue alone... but let it >be. I assume I've not asked to implem

Re: [boost] Command Line & Config review results

2003-06-08 Thread Beman Dawes
At 09:12 AM 6/5/2003, Aleksey Gurtovoy wrote: >Vladimir Prus wrote: >> > There've been a fair amount of suggested changes, many of which are >> > documented on Wiki [1], and since the author himself keeps track of >> > the issues, I won't reiterate them here - except for stressing the >> > need for

[boost] Re: Managing boost dependencies

2003-06-08 Thread David Abrahams
"Edward Diener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Abrahams wrote: >> "Edward Diener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> David Abrahams wrote: "Edward Diener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> I will look at the WinCVS site to see if there are NGs or mailing >>> lists that might help me out. >

[boost] Re: Managing boost dependencies

2003-06-08 Thread Edward Diener
David Abrahams wrote: > "Edward Diener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> David Abrahams wrote: >>> "Edward Diener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I will look at the WinCVS site to see if there are NGs or mailing >> lists that might help me out. > > Suit yourself; I'm trying to suggest that you not

[boost] Re: Managing boost dependencies

2003-06-08 Thread David Abrahams
"Edward Diener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Abrahams wrote: >> "Edward Diener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> How does one get the latest Boost CVS source ? I have WinCVS but >>> have never been able to figure out how to use it to get CVS source >>> on the Internet anywhere. Would anyo

[boost] RE: RE: Math Constants Formal Review - is extensible.

2003-06-08 Thread Daniel Frey
On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 16:56:53 +0200, Paul A Bristow wrote: > You can seen an example of extending to a 'new' constant 'gamma' in the > examples testFunctionConstants/gamma_function_constants.hpp. Either I don't understand the example or we are talking past each other. I don't meant to extend the f

RE: [boost] patch for date_time library

2003-06-08 Thread Jeff Garland
Synge - I have applied a fix that is equivalent to your patch. Let me know if it works. Sorry to be so slow on this... Jeff > -Original Message- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Synge Todo > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:15 PM > Subject: [boost] patch for date_time library > >

Re: [boost] Re: no semaphores in boost::thread

2003-06-08 Thread Victor A. Wagner, Jr.
well, unless (likely given this biz) the words have changed meaning again, "naked semaphore" was described by Dijkstra way back when (1964??) a "mutex" was a variant of a semaphore which restricted signalling (V()) to the task/process/thread/whatever that had successfully waited (P()) on it. often

[boost] random lib: Quasi-random generators

2003-06-08 Thread Thorsten Ottosen
Hi, Have anyone involved in the random lib and its standardization considered a couple of quasi-random generators? I have recently heard of the fancy named quasi stuff which simply means that the numbers fill the range more uniformly than normal pseudo-random sequences. These sequences are importa

RE: [boost]Interest in library generating streambufs from objects

2003-06-08 Thread Robert Ramey
This a very ripe subject My interest stems from my efforts regarding a serialization library. I have had occasion to consider alternatives in this light. I have looked at Jeffs compression streambuf. I think its interesting, useful and nicely done. Given this, maybe you should set your sights

[boost] WinCVS note

2003-06-08 Thread Robert Ramey
I also had problems getting WinCVS to work to taste. I was frustrating as I didn't need to go into the whole facility - I just wanted a sync'ed local copy. I bought a book on CVS but it started to consume a lot of time to use I finally got WinCVS to create a new local copy by using the command l

[boost] Re: Math Constants Formal Review

2003-06-08 Thread Gennaro Prota
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 15:56:53 +0100, "Paul A Bristow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If someone would like to do this, I'd be grateful. > >(Memories of how to use commandlines and CVS have decayed). IIUC, the boost sandbox is, so to speak, a more precious resource than the Yahoo files section. So, unl

[boost] Re: Managing boost dependencies

2003-06-08 Thread Edward Diener
David Abrahams wrote: > "Edward Diener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> How does one get the latest Boost CVS source ? I have WinCVS but >> have never been able to figure out how to use it to get CVS source >> on the Internet anywhere. Would anyone like to run me through it ? I >> know it has some

[boost] Re: Boost header and library dependency tables

2003-06-08 Thread David Abrahams
"John Maddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A while ago Beman produced header dependency tables, unfortunately these > began to get rather complicated and so were dropped, I've placed some > alternative tables here: > > Boost header dependencies: > http://www.regex.fsnet.co.uk/header_dependencies

[boost] Re: Managing boost dependencies

2003-06-08 Thread David Abrahams
"John Maddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Folks, > > I've put together a small tool for managing boost dependencies called bcp > (for boost copy). > > The bcp utility is a tool for extracting subsets of Boost, it's useful for > Boost authors who want to distribute their library separately from

RE: [boost] RE: Math Constants Formal Review - recap & summary

2003-06-08 Thread Paul A Bristow
A Mini-recapitulation of the _long_ saga so far: Briefly I propose many different representations for constants, because after much discussion and experimentation, no universally-acceptable format and no disadvantage-free format has been found. 1 We agree on the need for accurate mathematical

RE: [boost] Re: Math Constants Formal Review

2003-06-08 Thread Paul A Bristow
If someone would like to do this, I'd be grateful. (Memories of how to use commandlines and CVS have decayed). Paul Paul A Bristow Prizet Farmhouse Kendal, Cumbria LA8 8AB UK | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daryle Walker

RE: [boost] Re: Math Constants Formal Review

2003-06-08 Thread Paul A Bristow
| Genny wrote | Paul> What I would like to get is agreement on the presentation | of constants. | | You mean macros vs. constant variables vs. inline functions? | This is another thing I didn't understand by looking at the | documentation: the FAQ section seems sometimes to imply you

RE: [boost] RE: Math Constants Formal Review - is extensible.

2003-06-08 Thread Paul A Bristow
You can seen an example of extending to a 'new' constant 'gamma' in the examples testFunctionConstants/gamma_function_constants.hpp. The example by Michael Kenniston also show how complex items could also be added (but not normally to avoid every program dragging in ). Macros could also facilitat

RE: [boost] Interest in library generating streambufs from objectswith socket-like interfaces?

2003-06-08 Thread Jeff Garland
Jonathon T. wrote: > I have several class templates for producing standard streambufs based on > classes with read, write and seek functions (or a suitable subset thereof.) > I have used them successfully to access tcp connections, cryptographic > routines, OLE compound documents, zip files,

RE: [boost] Re: Managing boost dependencies

2003-06-08 Thread Jeff Garland
John M. wrote: > The bcp utility is a tool for extracting subsets of Boost, it's > useful for Boost authors who want to distribute their library > separately from Boost, > and for Boost users who want to distribute a subset of Boost with > their application. John - Many thx for doing this, I'm

[boost] Inter-FSM protocol discussion

2003-06-08 Thread Chris Russell
Hi Andreas, I've taken the liberty of starting a new thread to talk about these inter-FSM protocol issues as they don't related directly to your current FSM lib submission. For the benefit of people cruising the archives at a later date, this conversation derives from this exchange: http://news.g

[boost] Re: Managing boost dependencies

2003-06-08 Thread David Abrahams
"Edward Diener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How does one get the latest Boost CVS source ? I have WinCVS but have never > been able to figure out how to use it to get CVS source on the Internet > anywhere. Would anyone like to run me through it ? I know it has something > to do with server acces

[boost] Re: Imminent Code Breakage

2003-06-08 Thread David Abrahams
Roland Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> If you manually specialize boost::detail::iterator_traits it should work. >> > > The problem is the reference type. Yes, it works if you manually pass > all (or some) of the types; then again, this would require to include > thse types into the

[boost] Re: alternative configuration technique

2003-06-08 Thread David Abrahams
"John Maddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I found that boost has very powerful configuration system >> (boost/config.hpp and around...) >> but why use macros? >> there is another solution described here, let discuss it... >> may be there are some troubles, invisible for me, that prevent from u

Re: [boost] Re: no semaphores in boost::thread

2003-06-08 Thread Maciej Sobczak
William E. Kempf wrote: I haven't seen your code to say for sure, but from the limited description I believe there's a very high probability that this is the case. Hm... I'm ready to accept the argument that having two separate synchronization primitives to do logically one task can be error-pron

Re: [boost] Boost header and library dependency tables

2003-06-08 Thread Guillaume Melquiond
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, John Maddock wrote: [snip] > > Finally, what are "library dependencies"? Sorry if it's a dumb question. > > But by looking at the results, I don't get the meaning of it. > > It's everything that's needed by the complete library - by it's test and > example programs etc as well

Re: [boost] alternative configuration technique

2003-06-08 Thread John Maddock
> I found that boost has very powerful configuration system > (boost/config.hpp and around...) > but why use macros? > there is another solution described here, let discuss it... > may be there are some troubles, invisible for me, that prevent from using > this technique > in libraries like boost?

Re: [boost] Boost header and library dependency tables

2003-06-08 Thread John Maddock
> I think it's a good idea. But I have a few comments. > > First, it only handles headers that are directly under 'boost/'. However > some people have tried not to pollute the root directory and have put > their libraries in sub-directories. For example, the Graph library, uBlas, > the Interval lib