Re: Specifying the boot flow

2021-01-13 Thread Simon Glass
Hi Leif and Francois, On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 17:44, Leif Lindholm wrote: > > Francois already replied more elegantly, but I'll respond regardless. From Francois: > Let’s take concrete examples: chromeOS and Android are defining optimized and > secured way of booting a single known OS. This is

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-22 Thread Leif Lindholm
Francois already replied more elegantly, but I'll respond regardless. On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 14:15:47 -0600, Simon Glass wrote: > > If you are looking for a Linux-centric way of getting a > > fully-vertically-integrated OS up and running with a minimum of code, > > then that is arguably closer to

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-22 Thread François Ozog
Le jeu. 22 oct. 2020 à 22:16, Simon Glass a écrit : > Hi Leif, > > On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 06:08, Leif Lindholm wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 11:12:35 -0600, Simon Glass wrote: > > > > From an EBBR point of view I would expect it to be an implementation > > > > decision. For some use cas

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-22 Thread Simon Glass
Hi Leif, On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 06:08, Leif Lindholm wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 11:12:35 -0600, Simon Glass wrote: > > > From an EBBR point of view I would expect it to be an implementation > > > decision. For some use cases key enrolment makes sense, for others not > > > so much. > > > >

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-12 Thread Leif Lindholm
On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 11:12:35 -0600, Simon Glass wrote: > > From an EBBR point of view I would expect it to be an implementation > > decision. For some use cases key enrolment makes sense, for others not > > so much. > > > > In the PC space, Microsoft required that vendors include a means for >

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-09 Thread Simon Glass
Hi Daniel, On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 06:06, Daniel Thompson wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 10:52:30AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote: > > Hi Heinrich, > > > > On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 15:15, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote: > > > > > > Am 1. Oktober 2020 22:27:43 MESZ schrieb Simon Glass : > > > >Hi Heinrich,

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-08 Thread Daniel Thompson
On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 10:52:30AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote: > Hi Heinrich, > > On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 15:15, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote: > > > > Am 1. Oktober 2020 22:27:43 MESZ schrieb Simon Glass : > > >Hi Heinrich, > > > > > >On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 12:20, Heinrich Schuchardt > > >wrote: > > >>

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-07 Thread Simon Glass
Hi Heinrich, On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 15:15, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote: > > Am 1. Oktober 2020 22:27:43 MESZ schrieb Simon Glass : > >Hi Heinrich, > > > >On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 12:20, Heinrich Schuchardt > >wrote: > >> > >> On 28.09.20 18:51, Simon Glass wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I thought pe

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-02 Thread Ard Biesheuvel
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 15:12, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote: > ... > Please read > > https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/en/latest/uefi/uefi.html#launching-a-uefi-binary-from-a-fit-image > > Up to now the signed fit image can provide the UEFI binary and the FDT. > > We could easily and probably should extend

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-02 Thread Heinrich Schuchardt
On 02.10.20 14:19, Grant Likely wrote: > > > On 01/10/2020 21:29, Simon Glass wrote: >> Hi Grant, >> >> [who is 'nd'?] > > As Ard says, magic bot that suppresses the disclaimer on outgoing Arm > email. Others have figured out how to send email without it, but I've > not got mine sorted yet. > >> On

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-02 Thread Grant Likely
On 01/10/2020 21:29, Simon Glass wrote: Hi Grant, [who is 'nd'?] As Ard says, magic bot that suppresses the disclaimer on outgoing Arm email. Others have figured out how to send email without it, but I've not got mine sorted yet. On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:26, Grant Likely wrote: On 28

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-01 Thread Heinrich Schuchardt
Am 1. Oktober 2020 23:19:08 MESZ schrieb Ard Biesheuvel : >On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 22:30, Simon Glass wrote: >> >> Hi Grant, >> >> [who is 'nd'?] >> > >That would be our bot who kindly omits of the obnoxious email footer >on outgoing email if cc'ed. > >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:26, Grant Likely >

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-01 Thread Ard Biesheuvel
On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 22:30, Simon Glass wrote: > > Hi Grant, > > [who is 'nd'?] > That would be our bot who kindly omits of the obnoxious email footer on outgoing email if cc'ed. > On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:26, Grant Likely wrote: > > > > Hi Simon, > > > > Heinrich provided some great answers

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-01 Thread Heinrich Schuchardt
Am 1. Oktober 2020 22:27:43 MESZ schrieb Simon Glass : >Hi Heinrich, > >On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 12:20, Heinrich Schuchardt >wrote: >> >> On 28.09.20 18:51, Simon Glass wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I thought perhaps it might be worth starting a thread on this, as >> > despite Grant and Heinrich kinding

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-01 Thread Simon Glass
Hi Grant, [who is 'nd'?] On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:26, Grant Likely wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > Heinrich provided some great answers on the technical details. I'll try > not to retrace his answers, but there are a few conceptual model bits > that I think are worth talking about... > > On 28/09/2020

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-01 Thread Simon Glass
Hi François, On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 13:03, François Ozog wrote: > > > On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 20:20, Heinrich Schuchardt > wrote: > >> On 28.09.20 18:51, Simon Glass wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I thought perhaps it might be worth starting a thread on this, as >> > despite Grant and Heinrich kindin

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-10-01 Thread Simon Glass
Hi Heinrich, On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 12:20, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote: > > On 28.09.20 18:51, Simon Glass wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I thought perhaps it might be worth starting a thread on this, as > > despite Grant and Heinrich kinding spending a bit of time talking > > about this, I am still very m

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-09-30 Thread Grant Likely
Hi Simon, Heinrich provided some great answers on the technical details. I'll try not to retrace his answers, but there are a few conceptual model bits that I think are worth talking about... On 28/09/2020 17:51, Simon Glass wrote: Hi, I thought perhaps it might be worth starting a thread o

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-09-28 Thread François Ozog
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 20:20, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote: > On 28.09.20 18:51, Simon Glass wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I thought perhaps it might be worth starting a thread on this, as > > despite Grant and Heinrich kinding spending a bit of time talking > > about this, I am still very much in the dark

Re: Specifying the boot flow

2020-09-28 Thread Heinrich Schuchardt
On 28.09.20 18:51, Simon Glass wrote: > Hi, > > I thought perhaps it might be worth starting a thread on this, as > despite Grant and Heinrich kinding spending a bit of time talking > about this, I am still very much in the dark about how 'embedded' and > distro/other boot flows are going to come t