Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-03 Thread Uri Guttman
JP == Jerrad Pierce belg4...@pthbb.org writes: any other largish duplicate cities you can think of in the states? JP Kansas City? :-P kc ks 142,320 kc mo 475,830 portland me 64,000 portland or 575,930 well, i can change the metric to total of the paired cities. :) uri -- Uri

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Uri Guttman
rl == rob levy r.p.l...@gmail.com writes: rl For reasons I think MJD explains the best ( rl http://lists.warhead.org.uk/ pipermail/iwe/2005-July/000130.html ) rl Perl's macros will never be quite nearly as good as CL's defmacro rl or even Scheme's hygenic macros. So obviously Perl's

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-03 Thread Andy Oram
I was away yesterday evening and missed all this rumors about O'Reilly. A few observations. Book market: it's really hard these days to know what to publish. We expect fewer sales overall with each book, but there are still topics that can be profitable. Admittedly, we aren't doing much in the

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-03 Thread Bill Ricker
well, i can change the metric to total of the paired cities. :) have to ... at SMSA level, 74 Springfield, MA MSA Pioneer Valley MA 00,682,657 00,680,014 A298+0.39% 114 Springfield, MO MSA Ozarks MO 00,420,020 00,368,374 A065+14.02% ZZZ

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-03 Thread Uri Guttman
AO == Andy Oram an...@oreilly.com writes: AO But bigger conferences just don't seem to draw enough people in AO Boston. Even Portland, as you can see, doesn't bring the crowds AO anymore. Or at least the conference group was afraid it wouldn't, AO which is why they moved OSCon to Santa

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-03 Thread Andy Oram
I didn't talk to the head of the conferences group about why OSCon was moved. Perhaps it's for the reasons Uri mentioned. But the buzz I heard at O'Reilly was that the organizers discovered most attendees still came from California, and the organizers were afraid rising oil costs would

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-03 Thread Drew Taylor
Given Wall Street's recent record, I'd say your guess would have been as good as theirs. :-D Drew On 3 Apr 2009, at 14:29, Andy Oram wrote: I didn't talk to the head of the conferences group about why OSCon was moved. Perhaps it's for the reasons Uri mentioned. But the buzz I heard at

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-03 Thread John Macdonald
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 11:30:59PM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote: any other largish duplicate cities you can think of in the states? Um, New York and New York (except that one of them is not a city and the other is a subset so that is a duplicate in more than just the name :-) Going to total size

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Duane Bronson
Nice summary. Thanks for posting. He also mentioned that he has not come up with a good name for the new pattern matching syntax that is meant to replace perl5's regex. I applaud this renaming as regex (regular expression) is not very regular since it varies so much from grep/vim/sed/etc.

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Stephen Jarjoura
How about ... Perls Extended Pattern Matching / Extraction Dialect PEPMED (and it's logo could be a cute little red pill doing jumping jacks) -- Stephen A. Jarjoura http://runester.com On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Duane Bronson bron...@real-time.comwrote: Nice summary. Thanks for

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread rob levy
Regex 6.0 On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Stephen Jarjoura st...@runester.comwrote: How about ... Perls Extended Pattern Matching / Extraction Dialect PEPMED (and it's logo could be a cute little red pill doing jumping jacks) -- Stephen A. Jarjoura http://runester.com On Fri, Apr

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Jerrad Pierce
Surely the perl community can help him come up with a good marketing term that puts perl6 on the map regulexpressions? In a similar vein, a new mascot for perl isn't very easy to come up with. Nevertheless, an anime butterfly doesn't do it for me, even if the wings do include the characters P

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Bye, Roger
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Duane Bronson bron...@real-time.comwrote: However, perl6's pattern matching doesn't quite roll off the tongue as you might expect. Surely the perl community can help him come up with a good marketing term that puts perl6 on the map. P-Rex (the king of

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCO N)

2009-04-03 Thread andrew . langmead
I sort of wish that I still had access to the program I wrote at boston.com to categorize the freeform text of realestate ads. Or rather the config files they ran from. I seem remember some odd ambiguities even in New England states (Newton MA or Newton NH, Boston MA or New Boston MA.) The

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Nick Patch
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Jerrad Pierce belg4...@pthbb.org wrote: In a similar vein, a new mascot for perl isn't very easy to come up with. Nevertheless, an anime butterfly doesn't do it for me, even if the wings do include the characters P and 6. Other than the camel, goats or mules

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Charlie
P-Rex is good! After all Perl regex _is_ the king of regex. All other languages, and many tools, have adopted it, akaik. Also, it is not sterile, easy to say and will look danged good on O'Reilly book covers. Dinosaur references _can_ be taken the wrong way. But the goodness outweighs the

[Boston.pm] Placenames ambiguity RE: Discount for

2009-04-03 Thread Ricker, William
If you go international, Longest list of cities proper that I found quickly http://www.citypopulation.de/world/Agglomerations.html cuts off at 1E6 (three way tie for #s 476 477 478). There are three exact matches on 'English Name' in million-Plus cities- Hyderabad Birmingham Valencia In

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Steve Scaffidi
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Charlie creit...@rcn.com wrote: P-Rex is good! After all Perl regex _is_ the king of regex. All other languages, and many tools, have adopted it, akaik. Also, it is not sterile, easy to say and will look danged good on O'Reilly book covers. Dinosaur

Re: [Boston.pm] not so regular expressions

2009-04-03 Thread Tom Metro
Duane Bronson wrote: He also mentioned that he has not come up with a good name for the new pattern matching syntax that is meant to replace perl5's regex. I applaud this renaming as regex (regular expression) is not very regular since it varies so much from grep/vim/sed/etc. Right, he

Re: [Boston.pm] not so regular expressions

2009-04-03 Thread Jerrad Pierce
No, but according to Mastering RE you want Robert L. Constable's The Role of Finite Automata in the Development of Modern Computing Theory (1980). -- Free map of local environmental resources: http://CambridgeMA.GreenMap.org -- MOTD on Pungenday, the 20th of Discord, in the YOLD 3175: Ginsberg's

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Palit, Nilanjan
From: boston-pm-bounces+nilanjan.palit=intel@mail.pm.org [mailto:boston-pm-bounces+nilanjan.palit=intel@mail.pm.org] On Behalf Of Jerrad Pierce Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:35 PM Other than the camel, goats or mules probably come closest to representing Perl's versatility I

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Jerrad Pierce
I think the Chameleon surely is a qualified candidate for the Perl6 Mascot job Indeed, and it keeps the camel root. A case could also be made for its mouth harboring a natural whip. Perhaps difficult to make cuddly/effeminate though, which seems to be one of his main goals. There's also the

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Steve Scaffidi
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Jerrad Pierce belg4...@pthbb.org wrote: I think the Chameleon surely is a qualified candidate for the Perl6 Mascot job Indeed, and it keeps the camel root. A case could also be made for its mouth harboring a natural whip. Perhaps difficult to make

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Bernardo Rechea
On Friday 03 April 2009 13:38:09 Nick Patch wrote: Other than the camel, goats or mules probably come closest to representing Perl's versatility I think. Or maybe a mina bird, for it's mimicry abilities; everything's a dialect of Perl 6; and general cleverness. A platypus would be hard to

[Boston.pm] Logos (still) WAS Re: Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Jerrad Pierce
Actually, brookesia are pretty cute: http://www.wildmadagascar.org/wildlife/brookesia.html -- Free map of local environmental resources: http://CambridgeMA.GreenMap.org -- MOTD on Pungenday, the 20th of Discord, in the YOLD 3175: Ginsberg's Restatement of the Three Laws of Thermodynamics: You

Re: [Boston.pm] not so regular expressions

2009-04-03 Thread John Macdonald
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 03:05:22PM -0400, Tom Metro wrote: The next section on formal language theory does define a bunch of specific rules implemented by regular expressions, so in theory this would be where Perl 6 deviates. Can anyone sum up the ways in which Perl 6 breaks from the

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Jerrad Pierce
I dunno about platypus versatility so much as contentder for designed by committee, but I opted not to proffer it earlier because it's the mascot of DarwinOS (OSS OSX core). http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ Definitely cute though. -- Free map of local environmental resources:

Re: [Boston.pm] Placenames ambiguity RE: Discount for

2009-04-03 Thread Uri Guttman
AO == Andy Oram an...@oreilly.com writes: AO By the way, I think I live in one instance of the most common city name in America: Arlington. so do i. but i thought springfield wins that one. that was why the simpsons live there as it is in more states. remember when the movie was released

[Boston.pm] platypus RE: Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Ricker, William
platypus Platypi were also mascots for flexible inheritance in OO circles for demonstrating the problems with monotonic, non-overidable inheritance, like only calling parent methods through parent typed pointer, in C++ 1.0. I have a pedagogic puppet somewhere, from back when I was teaching

[Boston.pm] Perl 6 project Elf - 2009 Q1 status report [DRAFT-4]

2009-04-03 Thread Mitchell N Charity
Hi Boston.pm, I'm unsure whether this draft will actually get sent out, or to where, but since several people have asked about it, I thought I'd post it here for feedback. Comments encouraged. Thanks, Mitchell (pedagogic puppet platypi)++ Perl 6 project Elf - 2009 Q1 status report Summary

[Boston.pm] Arlington Springfield RE: Placenames ambiguity RE: Discount for

2009-04-03 Thread Ricker, William
Uri is correct, but it's close and depends on what the meaning of is is. Springfield wins 31+2 to 26+4 instances in the US, but Arlington appears in more states 29 to 26. The plus two and four are for named villages within an incorporated larger city, and double counts Arlington in Arlington

Re: [Boston.pm] not so regular expressions

2009-04-03 Thread Ricker, William
but IIRC the standard ivory tower regular expressions have grouping, alternation, and closure, or in re terms, () | and *. Much of perl's re forms can be created from those (e.g. x+ is the same as xx*). The original thing that was outside the official scope was backreferences ... However,

[Boston.pm] BostonPMCalendar

2009-04-03 Thread Patrick M. Rutkowski
I'm trying to figure out which Boston.pm events are coming up here in this April. On the calendar page ( http://boston.pm.org/kwiki/index.cgi?BostonPMCalendar ) I see several events being marked as being in April, but I'm not sure which ones are really in April of _2009_. For example, the git

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-03 Thread Ben Tilly
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Jerrad Pierce belg4...@pthbb.org wrote: I dunno about platypus versatility so much as contentder for designed by committee, but I opted not to proffer it earlier because it's the mascot of DarwinOS (OSS OSX core).  http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ Definitely cute

Re: [Boston.pm] BostonPMCalendar

2009-04-03 Thread Tom Metro
Patrick M. Rutkowski wrote: So, I'm suspecting that the April 14th git session might be the only event actually in April of 2009; is this correct? Correct. -Tom -- Tom Metro Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA Enterprise solutions through open source. Professional Profile: