Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:14 AM 9/21/03 -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: We are getting Object Oriented COBOL soon. Isn't that sort of an oxymoron, like attaching a jet engine to a covered wagon? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-20 Thread Kevin Tarr
I don't want this to be self serving as it may read. It's just I will always wonder what happened to me. I know when I was young, I never learned to tie my shoes until late, I'd guess at least seven or eight. In third grade we had modules that we did individually but it was secret in a way. You

Re: W's_sneak_vote_on_Vouchers_during_presidential_debate_passes_by_1_vote_ while_3_democrat_opponents_were_at_debate

2003-09-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:01 AM 9/21/03 -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: At 12:36 AM 9/21/2003 -0400, you wrote: > a question which arises > after reading the article is why there are apparently not any private > schools available which emphasize that their academic standards are > superior to those of the "failing public sch

Re: W's_sneak_vote_on_Vouchers_during_presidential_debate_passes_by_1_vote_ while_3_democrat_opponents_were_at_debate

2003-09-20 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 12:36 AM 9/21/2003 -0400, you wrote: > a question which arises > after reading the article is why there are apparently not any private > schools available which emphasize that their academic standards are > superior to those of the "failing public schools" but which are not > associated with any

Re: Equal rights opportunity or numbers?

2003-09-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:31 AM 9/21/03 +, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Ronn!Blankenship did not write: > > Do you want people with I.Q.'s under 80 to have "equal rights" > to be Mathmaticians? > eu qero ser profesora de matematica. ana silvia. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mai

Re: W's_sneak_vote_on_Vouchers_during_presidential_debate_passes_by_1_vote_ while_3_democrat_opponents_were_at_debate

2003-09-20 Thread TomFODW
> a question which arises > after reading the article is why there are apparently not any private > schools available which emphasize that their academic standards are > superior to those of the "failing public schools" but which are not > associated with any religious organization?  Are there inde

Re: Derivation vs. Memorization

2003-09-20 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > >> Who somehow did memorize the quadratic formula... > > Can you derive it? > Trivial. I ddn't memorize Cardano's formula, but I can derive it easily: eliminate term in x^2, x = u + v then eliminate term with uv. OTOH, I have a hard time remembering some obscure geometry

Re: Equal rights opertunity or numbers?

2003-09-20 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > > Do you want people with I.Q.'s under 80 to have "equal rights" > to be Mathmaticians? > eu qero ser profesora de matematica. ana silvia. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Derivation vs. Memorization, was Re: Girls more confidentof success

2003-09-20 Thread Julia Thompson
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 07:49 PM 9/20/03 -0400, David Hobby wrote: > > > ---David > > > >Who somehow did memorize the quadratic formula... > > Can you derive it? Probably more easily than the heat equation. :) Julia

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-20 Thread Julia Thompson
Bryon Daly wrote: > > >From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >I can memorize equations more easily than that, and can apply them > >properly. But I ran into a problem in high school, taking physics. The > >physics teacher we had wasn't qualified to teach physics (in fact, > >*nobody* in

Re: W's_sneak_vote_on_Vouchers_during_presidential_debate_passes_by_1_vote_while_3_democrat_opponents_were_at_debate

2003-09-20 Thread David Hobby
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > Although I realize it's not the point the author of the article was trying > to make, nor the reason it was posted to the list, a question which arises > after reading the article is why there are apparently not any private > schools available which emphasize that the

Re: Derivation vs. Memorization, was Re: Girls more confidentof success

2003-09-20 Thread David Hobby
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 07:49 PM 9/20/03 -0400, David Hobby wrote: > > > ---David > > > >Who somehow did memorize the quadratic formula... > > Can you derive it? > > -- Ronn! :) Certainly. Just complete the square.

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-20 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I can memorize equations more easily than that, and can apply them properly. But I ran into a problem in high school, taking physics. The physics teacher we had wasn't qualified to teach physics (in fact, *nobody* in the science department was, pathetical

Re: Derivation vs. Memorization, was Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:49 PM 9/20/03 -0400, David Hobby wrote: ---David Who somehow did memorize the quadratic formula... Can you derive it? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: W's_sneak_vote_on_Vouchers_during_presidential_debate_passes_by_1_vote_ while_3_democrat_opponents_were_at_debate

2003-09-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
Although I realize it's not the point the author of the article was trying to make, nor the reason it was posted to the list, a question which arises after reading the article is why there are apparently not any private schools available which emphasize that their academic standards are superio

Derivation vs. Memorization, was Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-20 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: > > Jan Coffey wrote: > > > > --- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > But you have to memorize math too - you don't just figure things out > > > every time you do a problem do you? > > > > Actualy yes, I do. > > OK, 2-part question: > > 1) Did you take Diff

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jan Coffey wrote: --- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: I never memorized anything by rote and I always did lousy in school but has always been very good at taking standardized tests. Why? The questions can be analyzed and wrong answers eliminated logically.

Re: Equal rights opportunity or numbers?

2003-09-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:19 PM 9/20/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: --- Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >We are all threatened when "equal rights" become "equal numbers". Should > >Dyslexics have "equal rights" to become english teachers? Do you want > people > >with I.Q.'s under 80 to have "equal rights"

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-20 Thread Julia Thompson
Jan Coffey wrote: > > --- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But you have to memorize math too - you don't just figure things out > > every time you do a problem do you? > > Actualy yes, I do. OK, 2-part question: 1) Did you take Differential Equations? 2) If so, derive the Hea

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-20 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jan Coffey wrote: > > > > > > >>I never memorized anything by rote and I always did lousy in school but > >>has always been very good at taking standardized tests. Why? The > >>questions can be analyzed and wrong answers eliminated logi

Equal rights opertunity or numbers?

2003-09-20 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >We are all threatened when "equal rights" become "equal numbers". Should > >Dyslexics have "equal rights" to become english teachers? Do you want > people > >with I.Q.'s under 80 to have "equal rights" to be Mathmaticians? The blind > to > >be fig

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jan Coffey wrote: I never memorized anything by rote and I always did lousy in school but has always been very good at taking standardized tests. Why? The questions can be analyzed and wrong answers eliminated logically. You have to have a lot memorized (even if it is not -as I said

Re: Killing Them Softly

2003-09-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
The Fool wrote: Killing Them Softly By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF NAIROBI, Kenya In fairness to President Bush, he presumably meant well when he cut off funds for some of the world's most vulnerable wom

Plasma blobs hint at new form of life

2003-09-20 Thread The Fool
Plasma blobs hint at new form of life 19:00 17 September 03 Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free issues. Physicists have created blobs of gaseous plasma that can grow, replicate and communicate

W's_sneak_vote_on_Vouchers_during_presidential_debate_passes_by_1_vote_while_3_democrat_opponents_were_at_debate

2003-09-20 Thread The Fool
-- If only 1,300 of the District's 67,500 students are to benefit from this experiment, what happens to those who remain in public schools? The education bills being debated in Congress include an additional $27 million in funding for charter and public schools. Of the $40 million for set asi

Killing Them Softly

2003-09-20 Thread The Fool
Killing Them Softly By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF NAIROBI, Kenya In fairness to President Bush, he presumably meant well when he cut off funds for some of the world's most vulnerable women. The Bush adm

Re: [L3]Re: Girls more confident of success...in an emphatically focused world

2003-09-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:37 AM 9/20/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: --- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I also don't think that "progress" is only > > measured by > > > technology and business -- particularly I don't > > think > > > that most corporations have a shining "vision of > > the future"- ot

Ideal Scientific Equipment

2003-09-20 Thread Robert Seeberger
Here's one for Ronn and Alberto: http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/ideal/ideal.htm xponent If Only Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [L3]Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-20 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I also don't think that "progress" is only > > measured by > > > technology and business -- particularly I don't > > think > > > that most corporations have a shining "vision of > > the future"- other than their own profits (of course > > th

Re: memorization vs. idea space position

2003-09-20 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin Tarr wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >That's a good question. As Doug has pointed out, language is a system. > I > > >like to think of the metaphor of idea space where the words both defines > > >the space and is embedded in the space. If one in

Re: [L3]Re: Girls more confident of success...in an emphatically focused world

2003-09-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:58 PM 9/19/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote: Addendum: I left out the filtration and calibration steps required in the 'high-tech' approach to bacterial quantification, and I forget the name of the machine used to measure light absorption and emission at various wavelengths...bu' ith on th' ti

Re: [L3]Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:38 PM 9/19/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote: I'm not tracking here, Jan; failing to account for one set of calculations done in kilometers and one in miles (or feet) If you are thinking of the loss of the Mars Polar Lander, I believe it was actually confusion over whether the thrust of th