RE: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: I didn't post the article, Apologies. For what? I was only clarifying. and I am basing my coments on that article and co-workers of mine, and my wife who had to get a special waver to even be able to go over to Bangalore

RE: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-03 Thread ritu
Jan Coffey wrote: I didn't post the article, Apologies. For what? Incorrect attribution. :) That should be interesting. Still, those Bangalore workers could and should be asking for at least twice (at a minimum) what they are getting. It's not like there is an over abundence

Neu5Gc

2003-10-03 Thread The Fool
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s957750.htm Molecule found in meat, milk and tumours Maggie Fox Reuters Wednesday, 1 October 2003 A non-human molecule found in red meat and milk makes its way into the human system when eaten - and seems to build up especially in tumours. The

Re: Racism

2003-10-03 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Ritu asked: I imagine that the term is offensive, because it reminds us of a time when Humanity was split into Four Races: whites, blacks, yellows and reds. Oh, this reminds me of something I have always been curious about: back in the days you mention above, what happened to the browns?

Re: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Raceism Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:07:08 -0500 - Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 3G cell phone signals: research found base stations can causetingling, nausea and headaches

2003-10-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
A link to the news source this came from would be helpful. Personally, I don't take articles seriously unless I know who's writing 'em. :) TIA, Jon From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3G cell phone signals:

Re: SemiScouted: Robot Suit:

2003-10-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SemiScouted: Robot Suit: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 23:24:31 EDT Saw this in hard copy, but the website isn't current yet. October Rehab Management: Interdisciplinary Journal of Rehabilitation The

RE: Racism

2003-10-03 Thread ritu
Alberto Monteiro wrote: You mean, the people from India with brown skin colour? I think they were lumped with the whites, among the Aryans. Yes, from the Indian subcontinent. I guess Afghans probably fell in the same caegory as well. I somehow doubt that they were lumped with the whites. There

Re: 3G cell phone signals: research found base stations cancausetingling, nausea and headaches

2003-10-03 Thread The Fool
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] A link to the news source this came from would be helpful. Personally, I don't take articles seriously unless I know who's writing 'em. http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,60641,00.html

Re: jobless recovery

2003-10-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Oct 2003 at 22:01, Jan Coffey wrote: It's sad really. For the modern economist game to work, someone has to loose. Capitalism doesn't have to work that way, but it is a whole lot easier to manage if it does. Someday maybe peopel will wake up and use their group power to end this kind

Re: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Erik Reuter
This is really silly, Jon. If you want to change people's minds, telling them they can't or shouldn't be use a name is a rather dumb way to go about it. Besides, most people don't like whiners. Using or not using the name redskins is not an important battle to fight-- surely there are more

Re: Racism

2003-10-03 Thread Steve Sloan II
Jon Gabriel wrote: I did find this site: http://aistm.org/1indexpage.htm which covers Native American Sports Team Mascots and might have some info of interest. Unfortunately, their webmasters probably aren't colorblind: I have a lot of trouble concentrating on and reading red text on a black

Re: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think that perjorative terms, losing the power to hurt is a good thing. And this seemingly PC attitude you espouse actually perpetuates a perjoratives ability to hurt. There is a sports team called the Whities. And their motto is

Re: Scouted: Spouses Influence Chronic Pain

2003-10-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip definition of chronic pain- usually this pertains to pain lasting more than 6 months, and often begins to change the personsality (and relationships of the person). We often start by understanding where the individual is- afraid damage is indicated by

Re: Racism

2003-10-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Racism Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:50:31 -0500 Jon Gabriel wrote: I did find this site: http://aistm.org/1indexpage.htm which covers Native American

Re: Racism

2003-10-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ritu asked: [not sure who said:] I imagine that the term is offensive, because it reminds us of a time when Humanity was split into Four Races: whites, blacks, yellows and reds. Oh, this reminds me of something I have always been curious

Re: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is really silly, Jon. If you want to change people's minds, telling them they can't or shouldn't be use a name is a rather dumb way to go about it. Besides, most people don't like whiners. Using or not using the name redskins is not an important

Re: Return of the King trailer review.

2003-10-03 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 10:36 pm, Deborah Harrell wrote: And as Buffy might say, We're here in hell already. [Further thread creep: enjoyed most of 'Angel' last night -- rah Blondie Bear! ;} ] Possible SPOILERS S P O I L E R S P A C E S P O I L E R S P A C E Angel 5x01 was pretty

Re: Enterprise, was Re: Popular Mechanics editors a bunch of cranks?

2003-10-03 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 08:56 pm, Jan Coffey wrote: With the end of SG1 looming, and the inside story on the replacement supposedly makeing season 4 of Sliders look like a masterpeice, Sci-Fi Channel, You Loos! There's still season 8... How many times will the charachters of the new

Re: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Raceism Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:20:17 -0400 This is really silly, Jon. If you want to change people's minds, telling them they can't or shouldn't be use a

Re: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 05:22:10PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: Uh huh. And 'Nigger' comes from 'Negroe', which means 'Black'. I'm sure that with subtle alterations, this argument would go over very poorly with African-American communities nationwide. You're being ridiculous. I refer to black

Slow on social news

2003-10-03 Thread Dan Minette
Rather late, I'd like to congratulate all the new parents: Chad, Julia, and Jean-Louis. From the little I've posted on anything, one might guess that I've been busy. I have. While my wife's surgury went well, taking care of her at the hospital and at home was fairly taxing. Running up to help

RE: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Chad Cooper
Indian Country Today considers the use of sports names, symbols, mascots and logos depicting American Indians by non-Indian teams and organizations as being offensive. Its policy states: ... the name 'Redskins' is a derogatory term that for at least 300 years has been used to insult, ridicule,

Re: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Raceism Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:15:02 -0500 Was *anyone* complaining about that sort of thing in the 1930s? Because I

[Scouted] Maggots, Leeches, and Now -- Worms?

2003-10-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
Among the higher Eeeu!-factor medical treatments are the use of maggots to clean gangrenous wounds, and leeches for therapeutic blood reduction; now comes the lowly pig whipworm for imflammatory bowel disease(IBD). http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/74/89187.htm?printing=true ...It turns out

Re: Racism

2003-10-03 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:45:47PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: The judge said they weren't, but the Federal law in question was established in 1946 and prohibits the gov't from registering a trademark disparaging any race, religion or other group. I'm quite ignorant

Re: [Scouted] Maggots, Leeches, and Now -- Worms?

2003-10-03 Thread David Hobby
Deborah Harrell wrote: Among the higher Eeeu!-factor medical treatments are the use of maggots to clean gangrenous wounds, and leeches for therapeutic blood reduction; now comes the lowly pig whipworm for imflammatory bowel disease(IBD). Good link. For me, it is grosser than

Re: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Raceism Before I do anything else, I want to respond to just this portion of Jons message, because what he says is the most important thing anyone has said

Re: Racism

2003-10-03 Thread The Fool
From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon Gabriel wrote: I did find this site: http://aistm.org/1indexpage.htm which covers Native American Sports Team Mascots and might have some info of interest. Unfortunately, their webmasters probably aren't colorblind: I have a lot of

Re: Racism

2003-10-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Oct 2003 at 22:14, The Fool wrote: From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon Gabriel wrote: I did find this site: http://aistm.org/1indexpage.htm which covers Native American Sports Team Mascots and might have some info of interest. Unfortunately, their webmasters

[ADMIN] This address working again

2003-10-03 Thread Julia Thompson
You can use my usual admin address to get in touch with me for administrative stuff now. I'm checking e-mail at least twice a day. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

the Micro$oft / Palladium only BIOS

2003-10-03 Thread The Fool
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/developer/0,39020387,39116902,00.htm Microsoft moves to integrate Windows with BIOS Matthew Broersma ZDNet UK October 03, 2003, 17:25 BST A deal with BIOS maker Phoenix Technologies would allow the operating system to directly control hardware. It also raises

Re: the Micro$oft / Palladium only BIOS

2003-10-03 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: A BIOS, or basic input/output system, is the software that ties the operating system to a PC's hardware. Traditionally, it has carried out basic tasks such as hardware and system configuration, and has been standardised and simple enough to allow the installation of

RE: Racism

2003-10-03 Thread ritu
Deborah Harrell wrote: You mean, the people from India with brown skin colour? I think they were lumped with the whites, among the Aryans. In South Africa I think they were called colored...didn't this influence Gandhi, IIRC? Yes. He spent 21 years in South Africa and started forming

Re: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 05:22:10PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: Uh huh. And 'Nigger' comes from 'Negroe', which means 'Black'. I'm sure that with subtle alterations, this argument would go over very poorly with African-American communities

Re: Racism

2003-10-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Racism Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 04:53:07 +0100 On 3 Oct 2003 at 22:14, The Fool wrote: From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon Gabriel wrote: