Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread The Fool
-- > From: Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Do I turn every discussion into an anti-Palladium >thread? > > No, you just show your agenda in other ways... Perhaps. <> Christian Reconstructionism - The Foundation of Modern Conser

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 21:39:40 -0400, Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The other usage of "Dark Ages" is the general view of the poverty, > > superstitious ignorance, and stagnation during this period. This > > persisted until the rebirth of reason known as the Renaissance. This > > op

Re: More on the environmental movement

2004-05-24 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement > > > > > I didn't know that. All I knew was, a certain amoun

Re: How Much Is True?

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 23:48:27 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 09:24 PM 5/24/2004 -0500 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >--===0066176978== > > > >http://www.tilenut.com/yo/BUSH_record.html > > Only the first one. > > JDG - Dumb and Dumberer, Thank God that this is the best our o

Re: The Goal was Victory

2004-05-24 Thread JDG
At 09:48 PM 5/24/2004 -0500 Gary Denton wrote: >Except for 3, the support for Halliburton, isn't this Kerry's plan? Was that the plan he voted for BEFORE he voted against it? ;-) JDG - Plan? What Plan, Maru? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/lis

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread JDG
At 09:04 PM 5/24/2004 -0400 Damon Agretto wrote: >> It's still not a person. And neither is cancer, even though they both >> meet JDG's criteria of having unique DNA. > >And what, exactly, is the difference between a fertilized egg and a clump of >cancer cells? And why are you dragging John into th

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread JDG
At 09:16 PM 5/24/2004 -0500 Robert Seeberger wrote: >> You believe that the Catholic Church is/was free to speak out >> against >> National Socialist and White Supremacist politicians, but should not >> be permitted to take any concrete steps against either - since that >> would be coercion? >> > >

Re: How Much Is True?

2004-05-24 Thread JDG
At 09:24 PM 5/24/2004 -0500 Robert Seeberger wrote: >--===0066176978== > >http://www.tilenut.com/yo/BUSH_record.html Only the first one. JDG - Dumb and Dumberer, Thank God that this is the best our opponents can do. ___ http://www.mccmedia.

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:52 PM 5/24/04, The Fool wrote: --===0740875161== -- > From: Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > All discussions involving JDG morph into an abortion discussion. It's as > > if he had an agenda... > > And you don't? Do I turn every discussion into an anti-Palladium thre

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 21:16:26 -0500, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "iaamoac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 8:31 AM > Subject: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion > > >

Re: The Goal was Victory

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:01:03 -0700 (PDT), Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > For the United States, the goal in its war against > > terrorism was > > victory. That is to say, the goal was to enable > > Americans again to feel

How Much Is True?

2004-05-24 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.tilenut.com/yo/BUSH_record.html xponent Curious Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "iaamoac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 8:31 AM Subject: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The Catholic

Re: Who's running the store in Iraq?

2004-05-24 Thread The Fool
-- > From: Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I expected problems in Iraq, but I am still blown away to find out who's > been running the Iraq economy. Its six people 23-28 who had their resumes > on the Heritage Foundation's website. > > They were appointed to perform low level functio

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Damon Agretto
> Do I turn every discussion into an anti-Palladium >thread? No, you just show your agenda in other ways... Damon. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread The Fool
-- > From: Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > All discussions involving JDG morph into an abortion discussion. It's as > > if he had an agenda... > > And you don't? Do I turn every discussion into an anti-Palladium thread? ___ http://www.

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-24 Thread Damon Agretto
> The other usage of "Dark Ages" is the general view of the poverty, > superstitious ignorance, and stagnation during this period. This > persisted until the rebirth of reason known as the Renaissance. This > opened up a new era of optimism, prosperity, and scientific progress, > all made possible

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 20:16:48 -0400, Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a > > reason for the Dark Ages. > > What was that, and what evidence do you have to support this? > > Damon. While the term "Dark Ages" is deplored by historians for many reasons, one original motivation f

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Damon Agretto
> All discussions involving JDG morph into an abortion discussion. It's as > if he had an agenda... And you don't? Damon. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Damon Agretto
> It's still not a person. And neither is cancer, even though they both > meet JDG's criteria of having unique DNA. And what, exactly, is the difference between a fertilized egg and a clump of cancer cells? And why are you dragging John into this? Are you trying to start a flame war? Looks like it

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread The Fool
-- From: Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If this is morphing into an abortion/pro-life discussion.,, All discussions involving JDG morph into an abortion discussion. It's as if he had an agenda... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listi

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread The Fool
-- From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 04:40 PM 5/24/04, Dave Land wrote: >Richard Baker wrote: > >>>A cell is not a person. A cell has no rights. A cell does not and >>>should not have rights. >>So if I were to destroy exactly one cell in your body at a time until >>none were

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:53:23 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OTOH, by the time it is possible to know that an egg has been fertilized > and implanted (and thus an abortion is needed in order to insure that it > does not develop further) it is no longer just a single cell .

Re: [scouted] Parents ordered not to have any more children

2004-05-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You... sir, are *evil* !!! Debbi who is retreating to go clean horse stalls before she gets into even deeper doo-doo __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. h

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-24 Thread Damon Agretto
There is a > reason for the Dark Ages. What was that, and what evidence do you have to support this? Damon. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [scouted] Parents ordered not to have any more children

2004-05-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:06 PM 5/24/04, Deborah Harrell wrote: > Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >At 03:33 PM 5/24/04, Deborah Harrell wrote: > > >This is really a sticky and slippery question, > Ahem. Ronn! I was _not_ making a deliberate pun! Debbi who might possibly need to get her subconscious

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:03 PM 5/24/04, Gary Denton wrote: Gary "who has an idea for a story about the Mormon Church becoming the only official religion after some disaster" A Utopian scenario story, IOW . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/bri

Re: [scouted] Parents ordered not to have any more children

2004-05-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >At 03:33 PM 5/24/04, Deborah Harrell wrote: > > >This is really a sticky and slippery question, > Ahem. Ronn! I was _not_ making a deliberate pun! Debbi who might possibly need to get her subconscious pool drained and cleaned...

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 16:26:25 -0700, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > Yeah, but that Jesus is full of surprises: > > "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife > and children, his brothers and sisters -- yes, even his own life -- he

Re: The Goal was Victory

2004-05-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
> "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the United States, the goal in its war against > terrorism was > victory. That is to say, the goal was to enable > Americans again to feel safe. "Feeling safe" is in itself an interesting concept; if Americans _feel_ safer, yet are not _ac

Re: [scouted] Parents ordered not to have any more children

2004-05-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:33 PM 5/24/04, Deborah Harrell wrote: This is really a sticky and slippery question, Ahem. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:40 PM 5/24/04, Dave Land wrote: Richard Baker wrote: A cell is not a person. A cell has no rights. A cell does not and should not have rights. So if I were to destroy exactly one cell in your body at a time until none were left then that would be okay? If not, at what stage would it become

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-24 Thread Dave Land
Deborah Harrell wrote: What IS it with various religious factions and their profound fear of women? Sheesh, even among the baboons at least females determine ranking in the society... Haven't we spent a fair amount of our energy over the past couple of hundred thousand years separating ourselves

Re: Who's running the store in Iraq?

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 15:22:06 -0700 (PDT), Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > The link to the Washington Post article is > > > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?V23541368 > > Do we have a sign-in, like for the NYT? I tried the > one I'd

Re: Who's running the store in Iraq?

2004-05-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I expected problems in Iraq, but I am still blown > away to find out who's > been running the Iraq economy. Its six people 23-28 > who had their resumes > on the Heritage Foundation's website. > > The link to the Washington Post article is > > http:/

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathar > > Second, Bruderhof abuse in Google lists almost > 3000 pages. > Try http://www.perefound.org/jr_cn.html > > or Google Bruderhof critics >From the latter site: "Y

Who's running the store in Iraq?

2004-05-24 Thread Dan Minette
I expected problems in Iraq, but I am still blown away to find out who's been running the Iraq economy. Its six people 23-28 who had their resumes on the Heritage Foundation's website. They were appointed to perform low level functions for which they appeared qualified. But, as the folks above t

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread David Hobby
Richard Baker wrote: > > The Fool said: > > > A cell is not a person. A cell has no rights. A cell does not and > > should not have rights. > > So if I were to destroy exactly one cell in your body at a time until > none were left then that would be okay? If not, at what stage would it > becom

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread David Hobby
> > But threatening to refuse communion and/or excommunication goes far > > beyond free speech. It is coercion. > > How is it coercion? Would my refusing to give someone money or to say I > like them be equivalent to coercion? If not, how is that any different? > And why can't someone whose denie

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Dave Land
Richard Baker wrote: A cell is not a person. A cell has no rights. A cell does not and should not have rights. So if I were to destroy exactly one cell in your body at a time until none were left then that would be okay? If not, at what stage would it become other than okay? Rich must understand

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Richard Baker
The Fool said: > A cell is not a person. A cell has no rights. A cell does not and > should not have rights. So if I were to destroy exactly one cell in your body at a time until none were left then that would be okay? If not, at what stage would it become other than okay? Rich ___

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Richard Baker
Rob said: > But threatening to refuse communion and/or excommunication goes far > beyond free speech. It is coercion. How is it coercion? Would my refusing to give someone money or to say I like thembe equivalent to coercion? If not, how is that any different? And why can't someone whose denied c

Re: [scouted] Parents ordered not to have any more children

2004-05-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Jim Sharkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/08/conception.banned.ap/index.html > "The couple has four children, and all four have been > place in foster > care. The three that were tested for cocaine tested > positive. The > judge isn't forcing contraception on them

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
>JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >At 04:34 PM 5/23/2004 -0700 Deborah Harrell wrote: > > It is my > >understanding that part of the tax-exempt status of >religions is tied to the avoidance of direct political > >action. Is that at all correct? If so, there is a > >bit of a tempest brewing local

1000 days after 9/11

2004-05-24 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Incidentally, counting inclusively, 6 June 2004 is the 1000th day after 2001 September 11. On that day, US President George W. Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Russian President Vladimir Putin, French President Jacques Chirac, and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder will all be in France o

Re: Battlestar Galactica

2004-05-24 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Thomas Beck wrote: > > > Space: Above and Beyond had a great first season, then it seemed like > > they started to run out of ideas by the end of the 2nd season. > > > > Except...it only _had_ one season... > (http://epguides.com/SpaceAboveandBeyond/) > (sorry about the late response, things a

The Goal was Victory

2004-05-24 Thread Robert J. Chassell
For the United States, the goal in its war against terrorism was victory. That is to say, the goal was to enable Americans again to feel safe. If Americans do not feel safer in October 2041 than they did in October 2001, the war was lost. Since 2041 is so far from the present, the immediate ques

ShrubCo's High Moral Ground: Lifting Sanctions / Arms Embargo from Sudan

2004-05-24 Thread The Fool
http://demagogue.blogspot.com/2004_05_16_demagogue_archive.html#1084976262 63713774 The Bush administration moved one step closer Tuesday to lifting an arms embargo against Sudan, even as it decried the government's role in blocking relief efforts for a huge humanitarian crisis sparked by continui

Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Catholic Church should be able (and is) to speak out on any > subject it desires. > But threatening to refuse communion and/or excommunication goes far > beyond free speech. It is coercion. O.k., let me make sure that I

'Compassionate Conservatism' in Action: $3

2004-05-24 Thread The Fool
<> Lawyers protest sharp cut in pay By Paula McMahon Staff Writer Posted May 20 2004 South Florida attorneys and Broward County's chief judge are predicting a serious crisis in the criminal justice system af

Brin: Rumsfeld bans camera phones

2004-05-24 Thread The Fool
<> Rumsfeld bans camera phones >From correspondents in London May 23, 2004 MOBILE phones fitted with digital cameras have been banned in US army installations in Iraq on orders from Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, The Busines