Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 08:32:12PM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: Are you saying that the government should not be obligated to pay what they borrowed from Social Security? No. I did not say that. Not even close. What the hell? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 09:17:35PM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: Live like kings?? If I was 65 this year and started to collect social security I'd get something like $1500/mo or $18 K a year. Is that enough for anyone to live like a king? If your total retirement income is above $25K, they

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 08:43:46PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: In the ABC/Washington Post poll, there is a slight majority (53 percent) in favor of a plan in which people who chose to could invest some of their Social Security contributions in the stock market. But when a followup is asked

Re: Sleepy, Stuffy Head Pun Challenge

2005-01-05 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At Wednesday 12:38 AM 1/5/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/4/2005 10:13:14 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Up too late, but I have been promising to do this for weeks- Something fun that anyone is welcome to alter and run with that started conceptually

Scouted: In The Beginning Was The Command Line: Updated

2005-01-05 Thread The Fool
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/05/01/05/0022206.shtml?tid=190 tid=189tid=156 I'm sure Nick'll have something to say. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re:Help with Music CD

2005-01-05 Thread MironMurcury
Thank you, Warren. My problem has been solved. A friend emailed me the clues to the solution, which I knew was on my computer, if only I knew what to look for Yours, MM PS. Very sad about Will Eisner. He changed many closed doors into open ones.

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:05:23 -0600, Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those pieces of paper as you call them were Greenspan's and Reagan's solution as to how the SS system would be nearly permanently solvent. Which it is. As long as you can trust the government to meet its obligations.

New Computer Virus List (Humor)

2005-01-05 Thread Travis Edmunds
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Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Gary Denton
THERE are three arguments being made in favor of privatizing part of Social Security. First, the Social Security Trust Fund needs money and privatization will, in the long run, increase the amount of money available to retirees. Second, privatization will give people choice, and choice is good.

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 04:05:23PM -0600, Gary Denton wrote: Those pieces of paper as you call them were Greenspan's and Reagan's solution as to how the SS system would be nearly permanently solvent. Which it is. Unable to understand the subject under discussion, he makes up straw men

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Maru Dubshinki
If he was reminscent of Eliza, wouldn't he have said something along the lines of: And how do those pieces of paper make you feel, 'Erik Reuter'? ~Maru I'm no farmer guess that's why I see no straw here On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:39:24 -0500, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unable to

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 07:37:44PM -0500, Maru Dubshinki wrote: If he was reminscent of Eliza, wouldn't he have said something along the lines of: And how do those pieces of paper make you feel, 'Erik Reuter'? The thing about Eliza is that it picks out key words from what you type and

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At Wednesday 06:37 PM 1/5/2005, Maru Dubshinki wrote: If he was reminscent of Eliza, wouldn't he have said something along the lines of: And how do those pieces of paper make you feel, 'Erik Reuter'? Probably uncomfortable, if they give him paper cuts. Or Resemble The Bathroom Tissue Found In

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At Wednesday 07:00 PM 1/5/2005, Erik Reuter wrote: On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 07:37:44PM -0500, Maru Dubshinki wrote: If he was reminscent of Eliza, wouldn't he have said something along the lines of: And how do those pieces of paper make you feel, 'Erik Reuter'? The thing about Eliza is that it

Carbon TVs to edge out liquid crystal, plasma?

2005-01-05 Thread Robert G. Seeberger
http://news.com.com/Carbon+TVs+to+edge+out+liquid+crystal%2C+plasma/21 00-1041_3-5512225.html?tag=nefd.lede http://tinyurl.com/4dybk You can find carbon in coal and tennis rackets, and a few years from now, it could run your TV. Various companies are currently trying to perfect the

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread JDG
At 08:32 PM 1/4/2005 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: Are you saying that the government should not be obligated to pay what they borrowed from Social Security? Why should it? Do you believe that Social Security should run a surplus and then put that money in a vault somewhere? JDG

Re: Help, seeing a music CD's contents.

2005-01-05 Thread Bryon Daly
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:19:14 -0700, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 4, 2005, at 8:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am perplexed and my work is stopped by a simple difficulty. The music CD only shows 44byte files, not the larger music files. They're

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 5, 2005, at 5:38 PM, JDG wrote: At 08:32 PM 1/4/2005 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: Are you saying that the government should not be obligated to pay what they borrowed from Social Security? Why should it? Do you believe that Social Security should run a surplus and then put that money in a

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: Why should it? Because it is obligated to, maybe? This strikes me as a very bizarre question somewhere along the lines of why should I pay on a loan the bank gave me, but perhaps I misunderstand you. Do you believe that Social Security should run a surplus and then put that money

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Dan Minette
I've got a few facts and observations thrown in. First of all, Social Security is set up like a mix between a safety net for senior citizens and an old fashioned pension that is calculated as a function of one's last 5 years of salary. There is a variable rate of yearly benefits per dollar of

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 05:46:49 -0500, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 08:32:12PM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: Are you saying that the government should not be obligated to pay what they borrowed from Social Security? No. I did not say that. Not even close. What the

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Doug Pensinger
Erik wrote: Apparently you don't understand the difference between 2005 and 2075 and 70 years of 1.5% increases. Probably not. What has been the average increase 1935-2005? I agree that Social Security _should be_ a safety net for low income retirees, but that's kind of a hard sell to people

Re: Gulf Arabs Wonder: Are They Being Stingy With Aid?

2005-01-05 Thread Doug Pensinger
Trent wrote: Bad Islamic theology, especially given God's willingness to sacrifice the faithful as collateral damage. In fact, the vast majority of those killed were probably not engaged in such terrible sins as nudity. Very sound Islamic theology. There is evil in the world. Evil (often)

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Gary Denton
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:23:20 -0500, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 12:01:56PM -0600, Gary Denton wrote: For example, if the price indexing change is made, a retiree in 2075 would receive 54 percent of the benefits now promised. No. A retiree in 2075 is just

Idiocy of universal retirement: (was Re: Social Security)

2005-01-05 Thread Trent Shipley
On Wednesday 2005-01-05 23:17, Doug Pensinger wrote: Erik wrote: Apparently you don't understand the difference between 2005 and 2075 and 70 years of 1.5% increases. Probably not. What has been the average increase 1935-2005? I agree that Social Security _should be_ a safety net for low

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:39:24 -0500, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 04:05:23PM -0600, Gary Denton wrote: Those pieces of paper as you call them were Greenspan's and Reagan's solution as to how the SS system would be nearly permanently solvent. Which it is.

Re: Gulf Arabs Wonder: Are They Being Stingy With Aid?

2005-01-05 Thread Trent Shipley
On Thursday 2005-01-06 00:10, Doug Pensinger wrote: Trent wrote: Very sound Islamic theology. There is evil in the world. Evil (often) afflicts the just and unjust without discrimination. God is the ultimate cause of all things. God is, by definition, not evil. Therefore, we posit