Re: war on the environment

2008-09-11 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:48 PM, John Williams wrote: >> Most of them already know -- they don't need me to tell them. > > If you say so. You are obviously an expert entrepreneur. But no > doubt your skills are more useful telling people what they should do > than what they do not have the intelligenc

my new blog on OpenSalon

2008-09-11 Thread d.brin
At the invitation of the editors at Salon Magazine, I've started an occasional political blog at: http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=17245 I don't know how well it will work out. Certainly better than DailyKos! If you'd like to drop by and leave a comment, cool. He's hoping for good news

Re: Hyperinflation!

2008-09-11 Thread John Williams
Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > That said, it's hard to see how this forced change is about anything > else but money: No, it is not hard to see. A lot of people appreciate the benefits of HDTV, as evidenced by the number of people with cable who are willing to pay extra for HD servic

Re: Hyperinflation!

2008-09-11 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:54 PM Wednesday 9/10/2008, John Williams wrote: >Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Whether I am aware of it is less the point than whether little old > > ladies living alone on Social Security need something else technical > > to bother with. > >So, you think elderly women are too

Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread Jon Louis Mann
> how rules and policy affect productivity in > a number of countries. > Since standard of living ultimately depends on > productivity, this is a key factor > to study if you are interested in what helps to improve > people's lives around the world. a better way to improve people's lives around th

Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread Jon Louis Mann
> > however, if you have any genuinely realistic > suggestions how i can > > use my "wealth" to help others (other than > giving it to you) i will > > consider them. jon > I have! Give it to _me_!!! > Alberto Monteiro sorry alberto, what i would like are ideas how to create a non-profit founda

death and taxes

2008-09-11 Thread Jon Louis Mann
> Oh, I thought it was just what tax is - it's giving up > some of your > wealth to pay for roads, schools, infrastructure, basic > health needs > and basic support for society. > Charlie. and to pay for invading sovereign nations under false pretenses... _

Re: war on the environment

2008-09-11 Thread John Williams
By the way, another excellent economics book relevant to our discussion and requiring little background economics knowledge is "The Power of Productivity: Wealth, Poverty, and the Threat to Global Stability" by William W. Lewis. This book discusses how rules and policy affect productivity in a nu

Re: war on the environment

2008-09-11 Thread John Williams
Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Most of them already know -- they don't need me to tell them. If you say so. You are obviously an expert entrepreneur. But no doubt your skills are more useful telling people what they should do than what they do not have the intelligence or ability to do. >

Re: war on the environment

2008-09-11 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 11, 2008, at 6:27 PM, John Williams wrote: > Yes, people are too stupid and inept to improve their productivity > unless > the evil employers help them. And I see business owners going around > all the time telling their employees to reduce revenue and decrease > their productivity. If y

Re: Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/09/2008, at 6:58 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:16 PM, John Williams > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> >> >> If you think that some people are not being paid adequately, why >> don't you give them some of your wealth? > > > Here in the United States, like many countries,

Re: war on the environment

2008-09-11 Thread John Williams
Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As long > as there's an unregulated-labor pool outside that scope, organized > labor is fighting a losing battle because it is still ultimately only > pricing itself out of the market. Seems the obvious solution is to not price oneself out of the market

Re: Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jon Louis Mann wrote: > > however, if you have any genuinely realistic suggestions how i can > use my "wealth" to help others (other than giving it to you) i will > consider them. jon > I have! Give it to _me_!!! Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mcc

Re: Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > nick did you mean to say... you're NOT giving part of your wealth...? tax > evasion is something mostly engaged in by the wealthy, and it is legal if > you use loopholes created for that purpose!~) > You have confused

Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread Jon Louis Mann
> > If you think that some people are not being paid > adequately, why > > don't you give them some of your wealth? > Here in the United States, like many countries, if > you're making a good > income and you're giving part of your wealth to the > weak and vulnerable, > you're almost certainly bre

Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread Jon Louis Mann
> > no one individual (not even bill gates) is going to > make a > > dent in wage inequities, out of their own pocket. > Ah, I see, you don't want to give your own money to > help people. You want > to give OTHER people's money! A cunning plan... not really, i pay taxes. i have no problem with

Re: Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:16 PM, John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > If you think that some people are not being paid adequately, why > don't you give them some of your wealth? Here in the United States, like many countries, if you're making a good income and you're giving part of your

Re: Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread John Williams
Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > no one individual (not even bill gates) is going to make a > dent in wage inequities, out of their own pocket. Ah, I see, you don't want to give your own money to help people. You want to give OTHER people's money! A cunning plan... ___

Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread Jon Louis Mann
> > does it take that much intelligence to submit to > economic slavery rather than starve? > Choosing to do a job that makes you better off than choosing > to do some other job (or not working at all) does not take a > lot of intelligence. Which is part of why I think that people > are capable o

Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread Jon Louis Mann
> > i am NOT > > telling anyone how much property they can own, OR how > much they can consume. > Good for you! I'm glad to hear that you no longer > support restrictions on property ownership and free trade. you are a piece of work, john. like that other john with an 'h' (mc cain) instead o

Re: Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread John Williams
Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > does it take that much intelligence to submit to economic slavery > rather than starve? Choosing to do a job that makes you better off than choosing to do some other job (or not working at all) does not take a lot of intelligence. Which is part of why I thi

Re: Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread John Williams
Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>go back and read what i did > i am NOT > telling anyone how much property they can own, OR how much they can consume. Good for you! I'm glad to hear that you no longer support restrictions on property ownership and free trade.

Free Market

2008-09-11 Thread Jon Louis Mann
> > you tell me, john, > I already did. You believe that the amount you own is okay, > but people may not > own more than you. You believe that the way to allocate > resources is for everyone > to ask you if it is okay, since you obviously know what > everyone else should do. there you go again, i

Hyperinflation!

2008-09-11 Thread Jon Louis Mann
> Liberal loud :-). Nice description! reactionary conservatives loud, sarcastic and obnoxious!~) jon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: 08:00 UTC

2008-09-11 Thread Julia Thompson
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote: > On Sep 10, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > >> Dunno if the guy who was showing it to me posts, but if you ever see >> something from "Sodium" or "Captain Sodium", that's probably my buddy. >> >> (And despite the name, he's quite OK if he ge

Re: 08:00 UTC

2008-09-11 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 10, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > Dunno if the guy who was showing it to me posts, but if you ever see > something from "Sodium" or "Captain Sodium", that's probably my buddy. > > (And despite the name, he's quite OK if he gets rained on. Heck, I've > hung out in a pool with h

Re: war on the environment

2008-09-11 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > > O-kay. Maybe it's time for everyone to take a few deep relaxing > breaths . . . ? > Why fscking bother? The world will end anyway, and we are all going to Hell. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listin