Re: 100,000 Deador 8,000

2004-11-11 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Martin Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:46 AM Subject: Re: 100,000 Deador 8,000 On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:25:47 -0600, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, let's call it 15,000

Re: 100,000 Deador 8,000

2004-11-10 Thread Martin Lewis
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 21:36:55 -0800, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://slate.msn.com/id/2108887/#ContinueArticle So, let's call it 15,000 orallowing for deaths that the press didn't report20,000 or 25,000, maybe 30,000 Iraqi civilians killed in a pre-emptive war waged (according

Re: 100,000 Deador 8,000

2004-11-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Martin Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 4:39 AM Subject: Re: 100,000 Deador 8,000 On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 21:36:55 -0800, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://slate.msn.com/id

Re: 100,000 Deador 8,000

2004-11-10 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 10, 2004, at 3:39 AM, Martin Lewis wrote: On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 21:36:55 -0800, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://slate.msn.com/id/2108887/#ContinueArticle So, let's call it 15,000 orallowing for deaths that the press didn't report20,000 or 25,000, maybe 30,000 Iraqi civilians

Re: 100,000 Deador 8,000

2004-11-10 Thread Martin Lewis
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:25:47 -0600, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, let's call it 15,000 orallowing for deaths that the press didn't report20,000 or 25,000, maybe 30,000 Iraqi civilians killed in a pre-emptive war waged (according to the latest rationale) on their behalf. That's

Re: 100,000 Deador 8,000

2004-11-10 Thread Martin Lewis
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:43:12 -0700, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know The Lancet study remains the only scientific study into deaths so until more studies have been done we really have no way of knowing what an accurate figure is. Kaplan mentioned the IBC

Re: 100,000 Deador 8,000

2004-11-10 Thread Warren Ockrassa
[I'm putting my reply up here; it's to what follows, of course.] I'd bet the numbers are higher than the IBC web site indicates as well. However, anyone who wants to argue against the conflict using casualty statistics alone simply must be extremely cautious about the numbers used. Even if

Re: 100,000 Deador 8,000

2004-11-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dan Minette wrote: Experimental science is rooted in methodology and an understanding of the inherent errors in methodology. That's fun! How do you propose to use Experimental Science to compute body counts? Fill 100 planes with 200 people, crash them into buildings, and take statistics on

100,000 Deador 8,000

2004-11-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
http://slate.msn.com/id/2108887/#ContinueArticle Apologies if this article has already been posted. From the intro: The report's authors derive this figure by estimating how many Iraqis died in a 14-month period before the U.S. invasion, conducting surveys on how many died in a similar period