Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-24 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/22/2003 10:30:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Out of curiosity, do you watch as many Yankee games when they are 30 games > out as when they are in a pennant race? Did you follow the Knicks closely > when they were out of the playoffs? I have not wa

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-22 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Football coverage observations > In a message dated 1/22/2003 12:33:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > The >

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-22 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/22/2003 12:33:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The > reality of pro sports is that winning is all that matters. By watching and > going to games, we contribute to this, and must share the blame. In short, > we set up a structure in which only those t

RE: Football coverage observations

2003-01-22 Thread Horn, John
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > I thought of another thing. As an employee, isn't a coach > > honor bound to > > maximize the profit of the owners by whatever means he can? > > But there has to be a limit. The notion that you can do > anything as long as you don't ca

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Football coverage observations > In a message dated 1/20/2003 9:44:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I thought

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-21 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/20/2003 9:44:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I thought of another thing. As an employee, isn't a coach > honor bound to > maximize the profit of the owners by whatever means he can? But there has to be a limit. The notion that you can do anything a

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-21 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/20/2003 9:44:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I thought of another thing. As an employee, isn't a coach > honor bound to > maximize the profit of the owners by whatever means he can? But there has to be a limit. The notion that you can do anything a

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-21 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:46 PM 1/20/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: >Personally, no. But, you have argued before that other actions by >employees that minimize profits is morally reprehensible. > >> Say, would you be honorbound to produce misleading >> advertisements that would boost sales?For example, I received

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-21 Thread Reggie Bautista
Debbi wrote: I can't speak to the football or basketball arenas (or really any professional sports area, since I just don't participate/watch, although when I was at LSU I did attend many home games), but I haven't gone to any horse shows of the "park" or "performance horse" variety (Saddlebreds,

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-21 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- "John D. Giorgis" wrote: > Dan Minette wrote: [I think John wrote:] > >> Silly me for thinking that they were still > playing a game out there, and > >> deciding whether or not to respect certain > participants in that game based > >> on the way they played the game. > > > >I thought of another

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Football coverage observations > At 08:44 PM 1/20/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: > >> Silly me for thinking that

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:44 PM 1/20/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: >> Silly me for thinking that they were still playing a game out there, and >> deciding whether or not to respect certain participants in that game >> based >> on the way they played the game. > >I thought of another thing. As an employee, isn't a coa

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Jim Sharkey
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Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:12 PM Subject: Re: Football coverage observations > At 08:58 PM 1/20/2003 -0500 Jim Sharkey wrote: > > > >John D. Giorgis wr

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:12 PM Subject: Re: Football coverage observations > At 08:58 PM 1/20/2003 -0500 Jim Sharkey wrote: > > > >John D. Giorgis wr

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Jim Sharkey
Julia Thompson wrote: >But how do you reconcile that with your own integrity, when you're >in that situation? Surely your personal integrity is worth a lot >more than a measly hundred thousand dollars or two. You *could* argue that part of that integrity involves doing what you have to to win,

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Jim Sharkey
John D. Giorgis wrote: >Silly me for thinking that they were still playing a game out >there, and deciding whether or not to respect certain participants >in that game based on the way they played the game. Respect them or not as you like, it doesn't change the fact that a coach's job is to wi

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Only in Texas would Phil Sims would Phil Sims be referred to as Chris's dad. Phil >did have a pretty good career leading the Giants to their first superbowl win under >Parcells (by the way you guys can have him; he may be a great motivator of player

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote: > > John D. Giorgis wrote: > >Plus, I find it very hard to respect a Coach who told his players > >to fake injuries, so as to slow down the tempo of a big game. > >Sure, it was probably perfectly legal - but it showed an utter lack > >of honor, IMHO. > > What the heck does hon

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:58 PM 1/20/2003 -0500 Jim Sharkey wrote: > >John D. Giorgis wrote: >>Plus, I find it very hard to respect a Coach who told his players >>to fake injuries, so as to slow down the tempo of a big game. >>Sure, it was probably perfectly legal - but it showed an utter lack >>of honor, IMHO. >

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Jim Sharkey
John D. Giorgis wrote: >Plus, I find it very hard to respect a Coach who told his players >to fake injuries, so as to slow down the tempo of a big game. >Sure, it was probably perfectly legal - but it showed an utter lack >of honor, IMHO. What the heck does honor have to do with professiona

Re: Jessica Simpson Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Jessica Simpson Re: Football coverage observations > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Seeberge

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:11 PM 1/20/2003 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote: >I'm not happy about Parcells. I got annoyed with him when he walked >away from the Patriots and left them scrambling, and when the Jets >started being on more nationally televised games, I almost always rooted >against them. Still haven't broken

Re: Jessica Simpson Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Jessica Simpson Re: Football coverage observations > At 06:50 PM 1/20/2003 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >>

Re: Jessica Simpson Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:50 PM 1/20/2003 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: >> Since then, though, I think that she's tried a little too hard to be a pop >> princess like Britney, and have not seen much of her since. I still >think >> that she could grow up to be a decent singer like a Whitney Houston or a >> Mariah Car

Re: Jessica Simpson Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Jessica Simpson Re: Football coverage observations > > - Original Message - > From: "John D. Giorgi

Re: Jessica Simpson Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Julia Thompson
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > At 05:32 PM 1/20/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >In a message dated 1/19/2003 11:55:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >> (Who the heck is Jessica > >> >Simpson, anyway?) > > > >Sort of Britany clone who seems to be a bit more serious

Re: Jessica Simpson Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:34 PM Subject: Jessica Simpson Re: Football coverage observations > At 05:32 PM 1/20/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >In a mess

Jessica Simpson Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:32 PM 1/20/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 1/19/2003 11:55:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> (Who the heck is Jessica >> >Simpson, anyway?) > >Sort of Britany clone who seems to be a bit more serious and less image driven. I think she has done

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 1/20/2003 10:18:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >writes: > > > No, that was Chris Simms' dad, Phil. > > > > > > Only in Texas would Phil Sims would Phil Sims be referred to as > Chris's dad. Phil did have a pretty good career leadin

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/20/2003 10:18:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > No, that was Chris Simms' dad, Phil. > > > Only in Texas would Phil Sims would Phil Sims be referred to as Chris's dad. Phil did have a pretty good career leading the Giants to their first superbowl win u

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/20/2003 10:18:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > No, that was Chris Simms' dad, Phil. > > > Only in Texas would Phil Sims would Phil Sims be referred to as Chris's dad. Phil did have a pretty good career leading the Giants to their first superbowl win u

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/19/2003 11:55:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > (Who the heck is Jessica > >Simpson, anyway?) Sort of Britany clone who seems to be a bit more serious and less image driven. I think she has done some acting and if I remember correctly she was quite goo

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/19/2003 11:55:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > (Who the heck is Jessica > >Simpson, anyway?) Sort of Britany clone who seems to be a bit more serious and less image driven. I think she has done some acting and if I remember correctly she was quite goo

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Julia Thompson wrote: > > Doug > > > > GSV Go Raida's! > > Damn straight! I like the Raiders. But...the law of irony demands that I root for the Bucs, led by Chucky, to whip the team that fired him. Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter & Ashcroft

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-20 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug Pensinger wrote: > > Julia Thompson wrote: > > >>>tracting the child when distraction was needed, though.) > >>> > >>Collinsworth doesn't bother me. The dingbat who was doing color on the > >>AFC game was about worthless IMO, was that Esiason? > >> > > > >No, that was Chris Simms' dad, Phil

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia Thompson wrote: tracting the child when distraction was needed, though.) Collinsworth doesn't bother me. The dingbat who was doing color on the AFC game was about worthless IMO, was that Esiason? No, that was Chris Simms' dad, Phil. Wow, that was Simms? I skipped all the pre game s

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-19 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug Pensinger wrote: > > Julia Thompson wrote: > > >1) The singer of "The Star Spangled Banner" for the AFC game was a lot > >better, IMO, than the one for the NFC game. (Who the heck is Jessica > >Simpson, anyway?) > > > >2) I hate having to listen to Cris Collinsworth. I'd rather that > >s

Re: Football coverage observations

2003-01-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia Thompson wrote: 1) The singer of "The Star Spangled Banner" for the AFC game was a lot better, IMO, than the one for the NFC game. (Who the heck is Jessica Simpson, anyway?) 2) I hate having to listen to Cris Collinsworth. I'd rather that someone with that particular voice not talk qui

Football coverage observations

2003-01-19 Thread Julia Thompson
1) The singer of "The Star Spangled Banner" for the AFC game was a lot better, IMO, than the one for the NFC game. (Who the heck is Jessica Simpson, anyway?) 2) I hate having to listen to Cris Collinsworth. I'd rather that someone with that particular voice not talk quite as much as he does.