Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-04-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 10:59:32PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > Its an interesting mix, one survey is much more accurate but doesn't > cover the whole field, the other is broader, but with greater > statistical and systematic errors. One might argue that one should use > the gross numbers from payr

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-25 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:44 AM Subject: Re: Household vs. payroll employment > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 10:59:32PM -0600, Dan Minette wr

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-25 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 10:59:32PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > worth thinking about any catagories is why they would change enough > in 4 years to account for the differences. The biggest factor is > the population control, so that is one good reason to focus on that > factor. For example, why w

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-24 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Household vs. payroll employment > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:40:19PM -0600, Dan Minette

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-24 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Household vs. payroll employment > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:14:04PM -0600, Dan Minette

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-24 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:40:19PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > 4) The estimation of the growth in population since 2000 has been > overdone. > > It appears that the Federal Reserve is looking at #4 as the most > likely. BLS revised it in January 2000, 2003, and 2004 for population control. Was

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-24 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:14:04PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > Right, but there is a seperate catagory for them. I don't see your point. The categories are not well-defined, so they cannot be fully reconciled between the two surveys. > The difference between payroll figures are still substantia

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-24 Thread Dan Minette
Sorry all, I'm multitasking and didn't finish this thought. - Original Message - From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Household vs. payr

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-24 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:54 PM Subject: Re: Household vs. payroll employment > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 01:38:59PM -0600, Dan Minett

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-24 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 01:38:59PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:42:48AM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > > > This is an interesting question. On the face of it, your > > > arguement is intuative, but there are other factors in

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-24 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Household vs. payroll employment > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:42:48AM -0600, Dan Minette

Re: Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-24 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:42:48AM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > This is an interesting question. On the face of it, your arguement is > intuative, but there are other factors involved. People who work in > housing, but are not "on the books" are usually (or at least often) > illegal immigrants.

Household vs. payroll employment

2004-03-24 Thread Dan Minette
The Federal Reserve believes that this number has been over estimated. We have a quote on this from Brad DeLong's website: http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2004_archives/000343.html#000343 Note: The Fed's View on the Household vs. the Payroll Employment Survey Populati