Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-10 Thread Robert J. Chassell
It is likely that people have what Christians call a `religious gene'. It need not be one gene, only that the phenomenon repeat itself in proto-hominids and hominids without cultural requirements. If the phenomenon requires learning, like kittens learning how to catch and kill mice from their moth

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-10 Thread Max Battcher
On 4/9/07, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan Minette wrote: > > > > So, in conclusion, while I don't know that Dawkins has such a gene > > (or even if such a gene exists) Dawkins has not provided sufficient > > information to falsify that statement. Instead, the correct answer > >

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-09 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Apr 2007 at 6:55, Charlie Bell wrote: > > On 10/04/2007, at 2:22 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > > > > Agreed, but I don't think that's enough to support Dawkins' claim > > that he > > definitely does not have such a gene. Now, I'm an agnostic > > concerning the > > existence of a "religio

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-09 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: > On 4/9/07, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> So, in conclusion, while I don't know that Dawkins has such a gene (or >> even >> if such a gene exists) Dawkins has not provided sufficient information to >> falsify that statement. Instead, the correct answer appears

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-09 Thread Charlie Bell
On 10/04/2007, at 3:01 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Dan Minette wrote: >> >> So, in conclusion, while I don't know that Dawkins has such a gene >> (or even if such a gene exists) Dawkins has not provided sufficient >> information to falsify that statement. Instead, the correct answer >> appears

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-09 Thread Charlie Bell
On 10/04/2007, at 2:22 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > Agreed, but I don't think that's enough to support Dawkins' claim > that he > definitely does not have such a gene. Now, I'm an agnostic > concerning the > existence of a "religious" gene, but let's assume, for argument's > sake, that > one

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-09 Thread Nick Arnett
On 4/9/07, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So, in conclusion, while I don't know that Dawkins has such a gene (or > even > if such a gene exists) Dawkins has not provided sufficient information to > falsify that statement. Instead, the correct answer appears to be a > definite maybe

RE: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-09 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dan Minette wrote: > > So, in conclusion, while I don't know that Dawkins has such a gene > (or even if such a gene exists) Dawkins has not provided sufficient > information to falsify that statement. Instead, the correct answer > appears to be a definite maybe. > I would guess there is stron

RE: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-09 Thread Dan Minette
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Richard Baker > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:36 AM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing > > Alberto said: > > > Samplin

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-09 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Richard Baker wrote: > >> Sampling from friends to prove something is very unscientific. Just >> to add unscience to the discussion, just because I know lots of >> vegetarians (and a few almost-pure carnivores) doesn't mean >> that I must reject the hypothesis that humans are omnivores. > > No,

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-09 Thread Richard Baker
Alberto said: > Sampling from friends to prove something is very unscientific. Just > to add unscience to the discussion, just because I know lots of > vegetarians (and a few almost-pure carnivores) doesn't mean > that I must reject the hypothesis that humans are omnivores. No, but you would have

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-08 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Richard Baker wrote: > > So far as I can tell, Dawkins is talking about his friends at > universities in the UK and US, his point being that there are at > least some people for whom religion doesn't seem to be an innate part > of existence. I'd imagine that his friends tend to be more atheistic >

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-08 Thread William T Goodall
On 8 Apr 2007, at 22:08, Andrew Crystall wrote: > On 8 Apr 2007 at 22:06, Richard Baker wrote: > >> AndrewC said: >> >>> Yes, shame you don't have it. >>> >>> "and the US" >>> >>> You can quote all you like, the research has been done. De'nile >>> ain't >>> just a river in Egypt. >> >> So far a

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-08 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 8 Apr 2007 at 22:06, Richard Baker wrote: > AndrewC said: > > > Yes, shame you don't have it. > > > > "and the US" > > > > You can quote all you like, the research has been done. De'nile ain't > > just a river in Egypt. > > So far as I can tell, Dawkins is talking about his friends at > uni

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-08 Thread Richard Baker
AndrewC said: > Yes, shame you don't have it. > > "and the US" > > You can quote all you like, the research has been done. De'nile ain't > just a river in Egypt. So far as I can tell, Dawkins is talking about his friends at universities in the UK and US, his point being that there are at leas

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-08 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 8 Apr 2007 at 17:49, William T Goodall wrote: > > On 8 Apr 2007, at 17:09, Andrew Crystall wrote: > > > On 8 Apr 2007 at 14:00, William T Goodall wrote: > > > >> Dawkins replied: "Speak for yourself. It is not a part of me. It is > >> not a part of the great majority of my friends in universi

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-08 Thread William T Goodall
On 8 Apr 2007, at 17:09, Andrew Crystall wrote: > On 8 Apr 2007 at 14:00, William T Goodall wrote: > >> Dawkins replied: "Speak for yourself. It is not a part of me. It is >> not a part of the great majority of my friends in universities in >> England and the US and elsewhere."' > > No, speak to

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-08 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 8 Apr 2007 at 14:00, William T Goodall wrote: > Dawkins replied: "Speak for yourself. It is not a part of me. It is > not a part of the great majority of my friends in universities in > England and the US and elsewhere."' No, speak to the people who have actually gathered the data. http:/