Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Reggie Bautista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. [Snip Stories of family e

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-04 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: > > But illegal aliens work > > for far less than union scale. That's why a lot of companies break > the law > > to hire them. Also, I won't dispute that citizen employees who work > in > > construction get good benefits. But employers don't treat illegals > the > > same. Rob replied:

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Reggie Bautista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. > I wrote: > > &g

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: > > Just from anecdotal knowledge from around the Kansas City area, pay > and to > > access to bathroom facilities are better in the construction > industry, but > > it's still seasonal and weather-dependent work with long hours of > > back-breaking labor with little to no benefits and a p

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Reggie Bautista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. > Just from anecdot

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Gary Nunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:07 PM Subject: RE: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. > > > >

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Kevin Tarr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:12 PM Subject: Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. > At 12:47 PM 1/3/2004, y

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. > At 05:21 PM 12/3

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:30 PM Subject: RE: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. > At 02:07 PM 1/3/

RE: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 02:07 PM 1/3/2004, you wrote: > >Actually, Ridge is right.If the US were to somehow > manage to enforce > >its immigration laws and remove 8 to 12 million workers from our > >economy - the effects on the US would be catastrophic. > > > >JDG > Prove it. > Kevin T. That depends if the US unem

RE: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:07 PM 1/3/2004 -0500 Gary Nunn wrote: >That depends if the US unemployed workers would be willing to jump in >and take those jobs. This may be a stereotypical comment, but I suspect >that many illegal immigrant workers are doing jobs that many US workers >would refuse to do - even if they are

RE: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Gary Nunn
> >Actually, Ridge is right.If the US were to somehow > manage to enforce > >its immigration laws and remove 8 to 12 million workers from our > >economy - the effects on the US would be catastrophic. > > > >JDG > Prove it. > Kevin T. That depends if the US unemployed workers would be wil

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 12:47 PM 1/3/2004, you wrote: At 05:21 PM 12/31/2003 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: >Almost a month after Ortiz was arrested, Homeland Security Secretary >Tom Ridge said: "The bottom line is, as a country we have to come to >grips with the presence of 8 to 12 million illegals, afford them some >k

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:21 PM 12/31/2003 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: >Almost a month after Ortiz was arrested, Homeland Security Secretary >Tom Ridge said: "The bottom line is, as a country we have to come to >grips with the presence of 8 to 12 million illegals, afford them some >kind of legal status some way, but