RE: US Unilateralism

2002-11-08 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 11:21 AM 11/5/2002 +0530 Ritu Ko wrote: >No more credit than the world gave other countries for not provoking an >unnecessary war in an unprecedentedly irrational manner, no. > >Is the US *looking* for more credit than that? Actually, I think that the US is simply looking for an end to the trum

World's Largest Democracies Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-08 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:59 AM 11/5/2002 -0200 Alberto Monteiro wrote: >But if you count the largest democracy by the number >of direct votes given to the President, then the title >does not belong to India, but to Brazil :-P Actually, Lula's vote total is only the second-largest for a Presidential candidate in

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-07 Thread Russell Chapman
Horn, John wrote: From: Russell Chapman [mailto:rchapman@;ozemail.com.au] /8qT5dS: Permission denied Huh? - jmh Confused... Not as much as me. I posted using the same email address I have for the last 6 years or so, but from a different SMTP server. I expected to either see my post on t

RE: US Unilateralism

2002-11-06 Thread Horn, John
> From: Russell Chapman [mailto:rchapman@;ozemail.com.au] > > /8qT5dS: Permission denied Huh? - jmh Confused... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-06 Thread Ray Ludenia
Erik Reuter wrote: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 10:20:34PM +1100, Ray Ludenia wrote: > >> Erik Reuter wrote: >> >>> One person's emoticon is another's trampoline, I always say ;) >> >> You do? I have never heard you say this before. Can you cite some >> examples? Maybe I'm deaf or haven't been pa

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-06 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 10:20:34PM +1100, Ray Ludenia wrote: > Erik Reuter wrote: > > > One person's emoticon is another's trampoline, I always say ;) > > You do? I have never heard you say this before. Can you cite some > examples? Maybe I'm deaf or haven't been paying attention. Cite, deaf? Ma

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-06 Thread Ray Ludenia
Erik Reuter wrote: > On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:05:35PM +0530, Ritu Ko wrote: > >> Erik Reuter wrote: >> >>> Isn't it ironic that the world's largest democracy treats every >>> else's concerns as a joke? ;) Touchy! One Indian poster *possibly* does this and you generalise this to a billion Ind

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: Re: US Unilateralism > Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ritu K

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Ritu Ko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:49 AM > Subject: RE: US Unilateralism > > > Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > >

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 6:19 AM Subject: Re: US Unilateralism > Erik Reuter wrote: > > > >> But if you count the largest democracy by the number of

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Ritu Ko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:49 AM Subject: RE: US Unilateralism > Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > > With that being said, has anybody noticed that the Unite

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > Ritu Ko wrote: > > > Well, the meaning was clear in any case. But the > problem is that I don't > > see how I could have changed the way it was > perceived. I mean, I know > > why I wrote the above comment, I included a '' > and ':)' to indicate I was joking

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:31 PM Subject: Re: US Unilateralism > > Jim Sharkey wrote: > > > >> Hmmm... Let me see how many votes a typical

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jim Sharkey wrote: > >> Hmmm... Let me see how many votes a typical brazilian >> girl would have: panties (1), miniskirt (2), microblouse >> (3), bellybutton piercing (4), necklace (5), wristlaces (6) >> and (7), anklelaces (8) and (9), ... Hmmm... Maybe it's >> a fair criterium > >Since wh

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Jim Sharkey
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Erik Reuter wrote: > > No, it should be > > one-vote-for-average-number-of-pieces-of-clothing-worn. > > :-) > > > Hmmm... Let me see how many votes a typical brazilian > girl would have: panties (1), miniskirt (2), microblouse > (3), bellybutton piercing (4), neck

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Matt Grimaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 11:26 AM Subject: Re: US Unilateralism > "John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > > > I know that the US, especially under the curr

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Ritu Ko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:24 AM Subject: RE: US Unilateralism > > Dan Minette wrote: > > > Why I can see being opposed to attacking Iraq, I'm rather >

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 09:26:38AM -0800, Matt Grimaldi wrote: > All of this negotiation, etc. should have taken place or at least been > wrapping up before the President made it a public issue. Absolutely not. Lots of secret negotiations behind closed doors that the citizens don't know about? No

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Matt Grimaldi
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > I know that the US, especially under the current Administration, is > often-criticized for having unilateralist tendencies, and disregarding the > opinions of the international community. > > With that being said, has anybody noticed that the United States has now > l

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:45 AM Subject: RE: US Unilateralism > You want US unilateralism. I'll give you US unilateralism: > > In the immortal words of R

RE: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Horn, John
You want US unilateralism. I'll give you US unilateralism: In the immortal words of Randy Newman: "Political Science" No one likes us I don't know why. We may not be perfect But heaven knows we try. But all around even our old friends put us down. Let's drop the big one and see what happen

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/5/2002 6:29:23 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << OK, I just got an image of Jeanne Kirkpatrick naked. You bastard, I'm coming to kill you for that. >> See Richard Baker for the cost of the ammunition. And it was Alberto Monteiro who first me

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/5/2002 6:22:43 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The UNSC might actually work better with the men drunk and the females > naked. Ah, the old Yeltsin-Clinton approach to statesmanship! Rich VFP Cheap Shot >> Have you priced the cost of ammun

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 22:22 04-11-2002 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: I know that the US, especially under the current Administration, is often-criticized for having unilateralist tendencies, and disregarding the opinions of the international community. With that being said, has anybody noticed that the United States

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
William wrote: > The UNSC might actually work better with the men drunk and the females naked. OK, I just got an image of Jeanne Kirkpatrick naked. You bastard, I'm coming to kill you for that. Adam C. Lipscomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Silence. I am watching television." - Spider Jerusalem

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/5/02 5:39:35 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Nope, I think that's unfair. It ought to be one vote for a certain amount of fabric used in dress. Ritu GSV 5 Yards To A Saree >> **buzzer** Saree, your answer is Sarong. William Taylor -

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Richard Baker
William said: > The UNSC might actually work better with the men drunk and the females > naked. Ah, the old Yeltsin-Clinton approach to statesmanship! Rich VFP Cheap Shot ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/5/02 5:06:06 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > But if you count the largest democracy by the number of direct votes > given to the President, then the title does not belong to India, but > to Brazil :-P

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:05:35PM +0530, Ritu Ko wrote: > Erik Reuter wrote: > > > Isn't it ironic that the world's largest democracy treats every > > else's concerns as a joke? ;) > > > > Imo, the world ought to be grateful. Look at the mess we have made of > handling our own serious concerns.

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:35:33AM -0200, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Hmmm... Let me see how many votes a typical brazilian girl would > have: panties (1), miniskirt (2), microblouse (3), bellybutton > piercing (4), necklace (5), wristlaces (6) and (7), anklelaces (8) > and (9), ..

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:56:49PM +1000, Russell Chapman wrote: > /8qT5dS: Permission denied Ding! -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Russell Chapman
/8qT5dS: Permission denied ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Ritu Ko
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > No, it should be > > one-vote-for-average-number-of-pieces-of-clothing-worn. > > :-) > > > Hmmm... Let me see how many votes a typical brazilian > girl would have: panties (1), miniskirt (2), microblouse > (3), bellybutton piercing (4), necklace (5), wristlace

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Erik Reuter wrote: > >> Why one-country-one-vote? This is stupid, companheiro. >> It should be one-working-class-one-vote. There would be > > No, it should be > one-vote-for-average-number-of-pieces-of-clothing-worn. > :-) > Hmmm... Let me see how many votes

RE: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Ritu Ko
Erik Reuter wrote: > On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:21:53AM +0530, Ritu Ko wrote: > > > No more credit than the world gave other countries for not provoking > > an unnecessary war in an unprecedentedly irrational manner, no. > > Interesting terminology there, Ritu, but I guess to be expected. Ok

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:19:45AM -0200, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Why one-country-one-vote? This is stupid, companheiro. It should be > one-working-class-one-vote. There would be No, it should be one-vote-for-average-number-of-pieces-of-clothing-worn. :-) -- "E

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Erik Reuter wrote: > >> But if you count the largest democracy by the number of >> direct votes given to the President, then the title >> does not belong to India, but to Brazil :-P > > > Great, next thing you know you'll be wanting v

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 09:59:48AM -0200, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > But if you count the largest democracy by the number of direct votes > given to the President, then the title does not belong to India, but > to Brazil :-P Great, next

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Erik Reuter wrote: > > Interesting terminology there, Ritu, but I guess to be > expected. Isn't it ironic that the world's largest > democracy treats every else's concerns as a joke? ;) > Does India treat every else's concerns as a joke? But if you count the largest democracy by the numb

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:21:53AM +0530, Ritu Ko wrote: > No more credit than the world gave other countries for not provoking > an unnecessary war in an unprecedentedly irrational manner, no. Interesting terminology there, Ritu, but I guess to be expected. Isn't it ironic that the world's large

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Ritu Ko wrote: > Well, the meaning was clear in any case. But the problem is that I don't > see how I could have changed the way it was perceived. I mean, I know > why I wrote the above comment, I included a '' and ':)' to indicate I > was joking > Would ';)' have been a better emoticon? I've

RE: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Ritu Ko
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > With that being said, has anybody noticed that the United > > > States has now > > > let the United Nations deliberate for nearly two months (and > > > counting) on > > > its dispute with Iraq? > > > > > > > > "..the US has *let* the UN deliberate..."? > > > > Intere

RE: US Unilateralism

2002-11-05 Thread Ritu Ko
Dan Minette wrote: > Why I can see being opposed to attacking Iraq, I'm rather > surprised by your > language. Could you specify the exact portions please? > 1) Do you think that Iraq is not in material breach of the > provisions that > ended the Gulf War? My understanding is that Iraq agree

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-04 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Ritu Ko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: RE: US Unilateralism > > > John D. Giorgis wrote: > > > With that being said, has anybody noticed that the Unit

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Ritu Ko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: RE: US Unilateralism > > > John D. Giorgis wrote: > > > With that being said, has anybody noticed that the Unit

RE: US Unilateralism

2002-11-04 Thread Ritu Ko
John D. Giorgis wrote: > With that being said, has anybody noticed that the United > States has now > let the United Nations deliberate for nearly two months (and > counting) on > its dispute with Iraq? "..the US has *let* the UN deliberate..."? Interesting terminology there, JDG. :)

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-04 Thread Russell Chapman
John D. Giorgis wrote: Does anyone know if the rest of the world is giving the US credit for sticking with the multilateral approach, and engaging both its allies and the UNSC members in very long and difficult negotiations, and working towards an ultimate resolution in the United Nations that wi