Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-17 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Star Trek Politics Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:31:41 + I don't think the Federation is that much democratic. It seems that Earth has a kind

RE: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-17 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Star Trek Politics Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:07:24 -0500 There's some quote I hear on TV cop shows, but can't remember exactly now. Something like three

Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-17 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Star Trek Politics Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:08:11 -0500 (EST) What political/economic model do you feel most closely resembles the UFP? Jim Ah...a monarchy? -Travis did I

Star Trek Politics

2004-02-16 Thread Jim Sharkey
A forum I frequent has been having a discussion of how one would describe the political system of the United Federation of Planets. It seems to me to combine traits of two systems I generally don't think of as compatible, that is almost a sort of democratic communism. I'd be interested in

RE: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-16 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Star Trek Politics Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:22:10 -0500 (EST) A forum I frequent has been having a discussion of how one would describe the political system of the United

Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-16 Thread Nick Lidster
: Star Trek Politics From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Star Trek Politics Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:22:10 -0500 (EST) A forum I frequent has been having a discussion of how one would describe the political

RE: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-16 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:58 AM 2/16/2004, you wrote: From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Star Trek Politics Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:22:10 -0500 (EST) A forum I frequent has been having a discussion of how one would describe

Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-16 Thread Michael Harney
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] A forum I frequent has been having a discussion of how one would describe the political system of the United Federation of Planets. It seems to me to combine traits of two systems I generally don't think of as compatible, that is almost a sort of

Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-16 Thread Damon Agretto
Assuming that democracy and communism are oposites is false. Democracy is a system of government, whereas communism is an economic model. The reason the two are usually incompatible is because the people of a democracy generally don't trust the government with un-checked power, and, it

Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-16 Thread Jim Sharkey
Michael Harney wrote: From: Jim Sharkey A forum I frequent has been having a discussion of how one would describe the political system of the United Federation of Planets. It seems to me to combine traits of two systems I generally don't think of as compatible, that is almost a sort of

Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-16 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Kevin Tarr wrote: Think about Tasha Yar's homeworld. If I recall correctly, an earth colony that fell into decades of chaos. The people stopped being altruistic. And if the government on Earth was truly communism I doubt the downfall would last as long as it did. It seems that the time

Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-16 Thread Nick Lidster
As it seems people have missed the last part of my post...here it is again.. please scroll right to teh bottom :) - Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 3:37 PM Subject: RE: Star Trek Politics

Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-16 Thread William T Goodall
Well, it's that post-scarcity economics thing. Not quite Banks' Culture but getting there. Housing, education, medicine, pensions are all wrapped up in the basic citizens' package. Someone can not work a day in their lives and be housed, fed, entertained and cared for to a basic package that

Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-16 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:36 PM 2/16/04, William T Goodall wrote: Well, it's that post-scarcity economics thing. Not quite Banks' Culture but getting there. Housing, education, medicine, pensions are all wrapped up in the basic citizens' package. Someone can not work a day in their lives and be housed, fed,