Re: If rbash is worthless, why not remove it and decrease bloat?

2013-03-16 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-03-16 23:06, Pierre Gaston wrote: > On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Chris Down wrote: > > On 2013-03-16 12:13, Chet Ramey wrote: > >> > If it cannot be removed, then some people are using it with the false > >> > expectation that it provides some increased security. Better to get > >> >

Re: If rbash is worthless, why not remove it and decrease bloat?

2013-03-16 Thread Pierre Gaston
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Chris Down wrote: > On 2013-03-16 12:13, Chet Ramey wrote: >> > If it cannot be removed, then some people are using it with the false >> > expectation that it provides some increased security. Better to get >> > rid of that than have someone think it is worth the

Re: If rbash is worthless, why not remove it and decrease bloat?

2013-03-16 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-03-16 12:13, Chet Ramey wrote: > > If it cannot be removed, then some people are using it with the false > > expectation that it provides some increased security. Better to get > > rid of that than have someone think it is worth the extra bytes it takes > > to implement. > > Folks cling ti

Re: If rbash is worthless, why not remove it and decrease bloat?

2013-03-16 Thread Chet Ramey
On 3/15/13 4:01 PM, Linda Walsh wrote: > Perhaps it would be doing a favor to users and allow some minor code > cleanup to simply get rid of the 'rbash'/restricted functionality. It's already an optional feature. You can easily remove it by configuring bash with `--disable-restricted'. That's n

Re: If rbash is worthless, why not remove it and decrease bloat?

2013-03-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Linda Walsh wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Honestly, a "restricted shell" is usually a pitiful thing that would be > > a joke, except it's not even funny. > Chet answered this in context: > Chet Ramey wrote: > > Posix has chosen not to standardize the restricted shell, either `rsh' or >

If rbash is worthless, why not remove it and decrease bloat?

2013-03-15 Thread Linda Walsh
Greg Wooledge wrote: > Honestly, a "restricted shell" is usually a pitiful thing that would be > a joke, except it's not even funny. > > I have no idea what the POSIX standard has to do with your question, > though. - Chet answered this in context: Chet Ramey wrote: > On 3/14/13 2:5