Re: [Bug-gnubg] Question About Rollout

2007-11-13 Thread Jim Segrave
On Tue 13 Nov 2007 (11:14 +0100), Massimiliano Maini wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on > 13/11/2007 09:53:12: > > > Hi Mochy, > > > > the winning chances reported by a rollout are in a sense cubeless. What > > actually goes on is the following. If a game is played to the end the > > actual res

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Nostalgia

2007-11-13 Thread Øystein Johansen
Christian Anthon wrote: > The gui sure has changed a lot, > > http://web.cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/gnubg/board.png?revision=1.1&root=gnubg&view=markup I remember this. It was even a gui before this, which was Xt widgets. There is even earlier versions of gnubg available at sourceforge that's pr

RE: [Bug-gnubg] Luck rates ?

2007-11-13 Thread Massimiliano Maini
Hi Ian, > The display occupies four extra lines of text, but they would fit within > the existing area of the gui. It has the advantage of clearly > identifying both measurements. > > It appears that the EMG luck rate and EMG error rate have not been > multiplied by 1000 to convert from points t

RE: [Bug-gnubg] Luck rates ?

2007-11-13 Thread Ian Shaw
Here are examples of money play and match play from the current implementation: yanwolfy ianshaw Error rate (total)-7.290 ( -8.329) -3.441 ( -3.549) Error rate (per decision) -34.5 ( -0.039) -15.9 (

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Has someone hacked www.gnubg.org?

2007-11-13 Thread Achim Mueller
* Christian Anthon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [071113 17:32]: > Ian Shaw wrote: > > I went to the home page just now and got some message in German (I > > think) before getting onto the site proper. > > yes it has been hacked... > > by achim though. The story is the following, > > "According to plans o

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Has someone hacked www.gnubg.org?

2007-11-13 Thread Jonathan Kinsey
Ian Shaw wrote: > I went to the home page just now and got some message in German (I > think) before getting onto the site proper. No I assume this is Achim's data retention message, I think it's maybe a bit to much and only in German. Achim, can't you just put a "banner ad" with a link to the re

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Has someone hacked www.gnubg.org?

2007-11-13 Thread Christian Anthon
Ian Shaw wrote: > I went to the home page just now and got some message in German (I > think) before getting onto the site proper. > > -- Ian > > > ___ > Bug-gnubg mailing list > Bug-gnubg@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg Hi I

[Bug-gnubg] Has someone hacked www.gnubg.org?

2007-11-13 Thread Ian Shaw
I went to the home page just now and got some message in German (I think) before getting onto the site proper. -- Ian ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Gnubg - Snowie error rate comparison

2007-11-13 Thread Massimiliano Maini
> On 11/13/07, jorma kala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > how is the total error rate and the per move error rate exactly calculated? > Is it just the average difference in MWC of each unforced move with > respect to the MWC of the optimal move? > Thanks. > jorma Hi Jorma, I'll try to explai

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Gnubg - Snowie error rate comparison

2007-11-13 Thread jorma kala
sorry, my question was badly put. What I'd like to know is how exactly the total error rate is calculated. Thanks On 11/13/07, jorma kala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > how is the total error rate and the per move error rate exactly > calculated? > Is it just the average difference in MWC of

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Gnubg - Snowie error rate comparison

2007-11-13 Thread jorma kala
Hi, how is the total error rate and the per move error rate exactly calculated? Is it just the average difference in MWC of each unforced move with respect to the MWC of the optimal move? Thanks. jorma On 11/10/07, Christian Anthon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Snowie and GNU backgammon calculate

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Question About Rollout

2007-11-13 Thread Massimiliano Maini
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/11/2007 09:53:12: > Hi Mochy, > > the winning chances reported by a rollout are in a sense cubeless. What > actually goes on is the following. If a game is played to the end the > actual result is recorded, i.e. 1 lost backgammon counts as one game in > that column.

[Bug-gnubg] Nostalgia

2007-11-13 Thread Christian Anthon
The gui sure has changed a lot, http://web.cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/gnubg/board.png?revision=1.1&root=gnubg&view=markup Christian. ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Luck rates ?

2007-11-13 Thread Massimiliano Maini
> I agree that the luck is probably better represented this way for a > single match length or a money game session. But the same argument > could be made for the error rate, i.e. should your errors be measured > in relation to the amount of match equity that you loose rather than > the amount of E

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Question About Rollout

2007-11-13 Thread Christian Anthon
Hi Mochy, the winning chances reported by a rollout are in a sense cubeless. What actually goes on is the following. If a game is played to the end the actual result is recorded, i.e. 1 lost backgammon counts as one game in that column. However, many games are truncated, either by using the race d