Hi Everyone,
I saw Gnulib started carrying some terminal info support.
My goal is to find a way to drop Ncurses from my build scripts. It
causes too much trouble. The rub is, a lot of programs depend on it.
Is it possible to provide a Ncurses replacement via Gnulib? Is this
something the project
Hi Jeffrey,
> My goal is to find a way to drop Ncurses from my build scripts. It
> causes too much trouble.
What trouble do you get? Portability problems?
> The rub is, a lot of programs depend on it.
What do these programs actually need? Ncurses? Any implementation of
curses? Just the terminal
> > My goal is to find a way to drop Ncurses from my build scripts. It
> > causes too much trouble.
>
> What trouble do you get? Portability problems?
Fails to build on some platforms. Solaris is the latest casualty.
> > The rub is, a lot of programs depend on it.
>
> What do these programs actua
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > What trouble do you get? Portability problems?
>
> Fails to build on some platforms. Solaris is the latest casualty.
On Solaris, why not use '-lcurses' instead of '-lncurses'?
> > So far, I'm not seeing a need. Ncurses is GNU, has regular releases,
> > and supports most
i'm not seeing how any of this feedback translates into "gnulib should fork
ncurses". as Bruno mentioned, ncurses, like gnulib, is a GNU project, so
that alone is pretty brow-raising. but even from a purely technical pov,
ncurses does a _lot_, and i struggle to see why any of it makes sense in
gn
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 6:07 PM Bruno Haible wrote:
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> Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > What trouble do you get? Portability problems?
> >
> > Fails to build on some platforms. Solaris is the latest casualty.
>
> ...
> > 3. Runtime execution. Leaks memory like a sieve. Impossible to test
> > with some
On 25 Feb 2022 00:42, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 6:07 PM Bruno Haible wrote:
> > Have you reported it?
> > https://invisible-island.net/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html#report_bugs
>
> Oh yeah, forgot to mention... No public bug tracker. You could have
> looked this up yourself if the
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:53 AM Mike Frysinger wrote:
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> On 25 Feb 2022 00:42, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 6:07 PM Bruno Haible wrote:
> > > Have you reported it?
> > > https://invisible-island.net/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html#report_bugs
> >
> > Oh yeah, forgot to mention... No
On 25 Feb 2022 02:45, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:53 AM Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On 25 Feb 2022 00:42, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 6:07 PM Bruno Haible wrote:
> > > > Have you reported it?
> > > > https://invisible-island.net/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html#r
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:58 AM Mike Frysinger wrote:
>
> On 25 Feb 2022 02:45, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:53 AM Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > On 25 Feb 2022 00:42, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 6:07 PM Bruno Haible wrote:
> > > > > Have you reported
On 25 Feb 2022 04:31, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:58 AM Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On 25 Feb 2022 02:45, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:53 AM Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > > On 25 Feb 2022 00:42, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 6:07
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:26 PM Mike Frysinger wrote:
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> On 25 Feb 2022 04:31, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:58 AM Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > On 25 Feb 2022 02:45, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:53 AM Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > > > On 25 Feb 2022 0
On 25 Feb 2022 14:32, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:26 PM Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On 25 Feb 2022 04:31, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:58 AM Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > > On 25 Feb 2022 02:45, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:53
On 25 Feb 2022 00:07, Bruno Haible wrote:
> Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > So far, I'm not seeing a need. Ncurses is GNU, has regular releases,
> > > and supports most platforms nicely. When a package depends on it, I
> > > just install it.
> >
> > Ncurses has a lot of problems:
> >
> > 1. Governanc
On 2/25/22 11:26, Mike Frysinger wrote:
you also seem to be unfamiliar with what goes into a functional curses library
(including the terminfo library). this is not a trivial undertaking by any
means.
I contributed to termcap in the 1970s, when Bill Joy was still in charge
of it. You can see
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > > but since you're trying to build a list of reasons that gnulib should
> > > > fork,
> > > > please point me to gnulib's "bug tracker" that isn't a mailing list
> > >
> > > Gnulib does not have one either. But it's irrelevant to this conversation.
> >
> > it is not: yo
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