Marius Bakke transcribed 1.2K bytes:
> Giovanni Biscuolo writes:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > maybe Marius Bakke have something interesting to say about his
> > judgements on this "DRM matter"
>
> [...]
>
> > to sum it up: AFAIU for users to be able to use Widevine they must
> > create a custom
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> ng0 writes:
>
> > I think this should not happen with pypi import:
> >
> > (inputs
> > `(("python-certifi==2016.2.28"
> >,python-certifi==2016.2.28)
> > ("python-dateutil==2.5.3"
> >
Julien Lepiller transcribed 565 bytes:
> Le 24 avril 2019 18:34:22 GMT+02:00, Raghav Gururajan a
> écrit :
> >Hello Guix!
> >
> >Including "tor-service-type" does not invoke and add "tor" package into
> >the system. Without "tor" package, tor commands cannot be used.
> >Therefore,
If I remember my interaction with guile-wm correctly
this is expected behavior out of the box.
Upstream has probably moved on to other interests,
because there are more errors at runtime once you
get to launch into guile-wm. For a couple of years
now volunteers have been asking about how to help
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 839 bytes:
> Hello,
>
> ng0 <n...@n0.is> skribis:
>
> > Sometimes I succeed building a system generation with an OpenSMTPD
> > config-file
> > which has syntax error that aren't picked up at configure time. When I
> > r
Hi Ludovic,
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 790 bytes:
> Hi ng0,
>
> ng0 <n...@n0.is> skribis:
>
> > Problem, not just when a service is misbehaving after successful system
> > reconfigure:
> >
> > $ sudo herd start smtpd
> > Password:
> >
Danny Milosavljevic transcribed 2.9K bytes:
> Hi Martin,
>
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 14:56:03 +0100
> Martin Castillo <casti...@uni-bremen.de> wrote:
>
> > ng0 wrote:
> > > So basically you want a field in the operating-system declaration where
> > &g
Martin Castillo transcribed 2.5K bytes:
> Hi,
>
> On 23.03.2018 15:15, ng0 wrote:
>
> > Could you be a more specific what you think is missing?
> > Your request is written in a very open way, and the space in GRUB menus is
> > limited as far as I assume.
>
>
Martin Castillo transcribed 1.6K bytes:
> hi,
>
> the grub entries for old system generations aren't very helpful. It
> would be nice, if there was a field in the operating system declaration
> stating what was changed in this generation, that would be added to the
> boot entry label.
>
> Martin
宋文武 transcribed 408 bytes:
> ng0 <n...@n0.is> writes:
>
> > When adding FVWM to the system profile and not using startx or something
> > like adding fvwm execution to the file in $HOME the login manager would
> > source, it does not appear in the selection of window
Currently we have the http_proxy env var which can be set in the
environment if guix-daemon and is honored by downloads of
substitutes.
As discussed a couple of days ago on IRC, adding the ability
to use proxies for all parts of guix that are concerned with
data retrieved via network would be
When adding FVWM to the system profile and not using startx or something
like adding fvwm execution to the file in $HOME the login manager would
source, it does not appear in the selection of window managers to start.
We should install a .desktop file for it.
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parent, obj = obj, getattr(obj, part)
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'test_support'
phase `check' failed after 0.3 seconds
builder for
`/gnu/store/6031jjx3pnw3m4wkbng2sfz6w4cv3x22-mcomix-1.2.1.drv' failed
with exit code 1
guix package: error: buil
orks when you make /usr/bin/perl as a
special file type link available on the system, as the problem is
some unchanged hook lines pointing to this instead of the store.
As repo hooks are not attached to the changes in the store I
think it's okay. Eventually we should come up with a solution for
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote:
> Hi ng0 and Meiyo,
>
> n...@n0.is skribis:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, Meiyo Peng <meiyo.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am using GuixSD 0.14. After upgrading fish shell to l
assume this is related to bug#27206
https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=27206
Which to my knowledge and sources I've read doesn't require C
knowledge but more knowledge of how Fish interacts on
system/vendor level and some testing with the resources I've
provided in the other thread/bug.
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e. I've looked at
3 other OS before reading this, and none of the do anything
different wrt Manual including/excluding.
With this in mind, I'm closing the bug report.
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For a simple hello world (as per their own Manual) GNU Cobol depends on:
* ncurse
* bdb
* gmp
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Mathieu Lirzin transcribed 2.4K bytes:
> Hello,
>
> ng0 <n...@n0.is> writes:
>
> > Mathieu Lirzin transcribed 1.0K bytes:
> >>
> >> While building my system configuration after a ‘guix pull’ with guix
> >> "d36d4c55c4a3faf47ee09e101
arts of texlive,
notable
this one. The resulting size would be ~5GB and as far as I understand it this
would
need longer to transfer to you than to build locally (given that your machine
can
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on devices smaller than router devices (at least that's my
current assumption looking at the size of a typical minimal
GuixSD, it's possible but requires lots of customization).
> Thanks for your report,
> Ludo’.
>
>
>
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> Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.0K bytes:
> > ng0 <n...@pragmatique.xyz> skribis:
> >
> > > ng0 transcribed 0.4K bytes:
> > >> A feature-bug I forgot to report a while ago.
> > >> It has been described on the ma
ng0 transcribed 2.1K bytes:
> Mike Gerwitz transcribed 1.6K bytes:
> > On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 11:59:11 -0600, Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote:
> > > It looks the same. Maybe the Libreboot version is responsible... I'm
> > > not sure.
> >
> > I just rece
Mike Gerwitz transcribed 1.6K bytes:
> On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 11:59:11 -0600, Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote:
> > It looks the same. Maybe the Libreboot version is responsible... I'm
> > not sure.
>
> I just received mine recently from Libiquity and I haven't had a chance
> to play around with
Hi,
Quiliro Ordonez Baca transcribed 0.3K bytes:
> Hello.
> I found Microscheme on the repos for using Arduino. Please tell me where
> I can find information on how to use Arduino and MicroScheme. By the way
> the web page on the package definition for microscheme: (microscheme.org)
> is
藍挺瑋 transcribed 1.7K bytes:
> This problem happens on Fedora 27, which uses Guile 2.0.14.
Do we still support building with guile 2.0? That's a
maintenance version of Guile, 2.2 is the new stable.
> $ guix package -i hello
> The following package will be installed:
>hello 2.10
ng0 transcribed 2.5K bytes:
> I'm searching for a good solution to analyze some logs. Geo::IP
> is good enough. Now the problem is this:
>
> user@abyayala /gnu/store/5mhrli41qbcpns3gg0yf1vv07lvpg8hm-perl-geo-ip-1.51$
> egrep -nr "/usr/" lib/perl5/site_perl/5.26.0/
>
I'm searching for a good solution to analyze some logs. Geo::IP
is good enough. Now the problem is this:
user@abyayala /gnu/store/5mhrli41qbcpns3gg0yf1vv07lvpg8hm-perl-geo-ip-1.51$
egrep -nr "/usr/" lib/perl5/site_perl/5.26.0/
lib/perl5/site_perl/5.26.0/Geo/IP/Record.pod:9: my $gi =
Maxim Cournoyer transcribed 0.5K bytes:
> I can reproduce this on GuixSD (foreign distros are OK).
>
> By going to tty0 (Ctrl-Alt-F1) we can see the following text which gets
> output at every crash:
>
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> Warning: Unable to load
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 0.8K bytes:
> Hi ng0,
>
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
>
> > paste from my current systemconfig:
> >
> > ;; networking with network-manager
> > (service wpa-supplicant-service-type wpa-sup
ng0 transcribed 2.7K bytes:
> Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.0K bytes:
> > ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
> >
> > > I have come to the conclusion (logs will be reproduced next week and
> > > added)
> > > that network-manager-openvpn might no
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.0K bytes:
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
>
> > I have come to the conclusion (logs will be reproduced next week and added)
> > that network-manager-openvpn might not be functional when
> > used with the network-manager servic
It's already an improvement from the last version
of awesome, but here's what I found just now (no logs):
log in to awesome
press 'Control-Super-r'
expected: reload awesome config
actual behavior: "login command not found" message before taking you to SLIM
again.
I'm not volunteering to fix
Jan Nieuwenhuizen transcribed 1.0K bytes:
> ng0 writes:
>
> > as I wrote in #29135, we should upstream the patches we
> > gather for reproducibility. Share with upstream what is
> > applicable to more software than just Guix included
> > definitions of the softwa
on this. Even if people is just a couple. It helps.
We need to share this, to avoid duplicate work elsewhere.
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6_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE
> -lperl
> -lpthread
> -lnsl
> -ldl
> -lm
> -lcrypt
> -lutil
> -lc
>
> -L/gnu/store/2dlpgzv0rmfd7v71d6h2gc7r2251hzwh-python-3.5.3/lib/python3.5/config-3.5m
> -lpython3.5m
> -lpthread
>
Ricardo Wurmus transcribed 1.6K bytes:
>
> Marius Bakke <mba...@fastmail.com> writes:
>
> > ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> writes:
> >
> >> feh https://i.imgur.com/263enxT.jpg
> >> feh opens image
> >>
> >> Problem:
> >&g
can only test the case for vpnc as I'm debugging
the package right now. It kind-of-works, but the rule
is not being found when you try to activate the
vpnc connection.
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See 'man feh' for detailed usage information
nss etc are in my profile, no problem with other curl based applications.
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ng0 transcribed 2.8K bytes:
> Ludovic Courtès transcribed 0.9K bytes:
> > Hi ng0,
> >
> > ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
> >
> > > ng0 transcribed 1.7K bytes:
> > >> Ludovic Courtès transcribed 0.2K bytes:
> > >> > Hell
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 0.9K bytes:
> Hi ng0,
>
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
>
> > ng0 transcribed 1.7K bytes:
> >> Ludovic Courtès transcribed 0.2K bytes:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > Since nothing depends
ng0 transcribed 1.7K bytes:
> Ludovic Courtès transcribed 0.2K bytes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Since nothing depends on lxqt-common, I suggest removing it. We can
> > always revisit this decision later if needed.
> >
> > Objections?
>
> Yes, I have object
rrent LXQT
branch
and the work that needs to be done for an LXQT Desktop to report
on wether LXQT really moved away from this or if it is still
needed by applications we do not (yet!) have.
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.
>
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Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.2K bytes:
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
>
> > Ludovic Courtès transcribed 0.8K bytes:
>
> [...]
>
> >> > Looking at the deprecated repo, it is not clear what needs to be
> >> > done. Possibl
ing the hash of the archive.
>
> Oh right, because auto-generated archives use the project name for the
> top-level directory. Bummer.
>
> > Looking at the deprecated repo, it is not clear what needs to be
> > done. Possibly the now deprecated lxqt-common has been broken
ng0 transcribed 2.1K bytes:
…
> Since some of our own dependencies are on github (at the very least
> guile-git), we need to come up with a solution.
…
Correction: libgit2 is on github, a dependency of guile-git (which is on
gitlab).
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on github.
- Mirror the content somewhere reliable in snapshots for
some time. Problem here: we start to rely on this "somewhere"
to be trustworthy and introduce one more point to trust
(however due to pre-recorded hash sum this is just an annoyance,
not a grave issue).
- Your idea
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.2K bytes:
> Hello ng0,
>
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
>
> > what's missing for this branch to be merged? I took a quick build on this
> > (and because I like the code as a reference), and it looks good. Builds,
> >
depend on this for our core functionality,
can't we just keep this on our ftp directory at gnu.org
as a fall-back source in a list?
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Mark H Weaver transcribed 0.8K bytes:
> Mark H Weaver <m...@netris.org> writes:
>
> > ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> writes:
> >
> >> With a completely new system (had to set this up for testing Mate)
> >> and guix package -i icecat (for the recent
Mark H Weaver transcribed 1.1K bytes:
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> writes:
>
> > Mark H Weaver transcribed 0.4K bytes:
> >>
> >> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> writes:
> >>
> >> > Is this an upstream bug? Should we patch to remove G
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.3K bytes:
> Hello,
>
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
>
> > Mark H Weaver transcribed 0.4K bytes:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> writes:
> >>
> >> > Is this an up
Mark H Weaver transcribed 0.4K bytes:
> Hi,
>
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> writes:
>
> > Is this an upstream bug? Should we patch to remove Google?
> >
> > I've just compared a completely new system (and Icecat profile)
> > with my default prof
Is this an upstream bug? Should we patch to remove Google?
I've just compared a completely new system (and Icecat profile)
with my default profile, both include Google in search engines.
There's also Bing and Yahoo, I'm not sure if all 3 were present
before this version.
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e Connman" step.
Maybe disable the Update checking (will probably only work for user-installed
addons?) step.
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},
> where @var{system} is @code{x86_64-linux} for an @code{x86_64} machine
> already running the kernel Linux, and so on.
> |
>
> |Is there some way to replace VERSION with the stable version?|
>
> |Thanks, ben
> |
>
I think we could jus
nvolving tmux, simply creating a process that gets PID 1 as its parent,
> but it wouldn’t trigger the bug. I’m unclear as to why tmux triggers it
> and no that other simple test.
>
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.
>
>
>
>
I just found this upstream issue: https://github.com/tmux/tmux/
8:08am ~ > echo $shell
> /gnu/store/kfv79p5di3bz3jl4j1vn91v69ga6sqk3-tcsh-6.20.00/bin/tcsh
> [abyayala] 8:08am ~ > exit
> # now we are back in bash again (no tcsh-only environment here)
> user@abyayala ~$ echo $shell
>
> # as you can see bash returns empty here
> # and so
one.
…
> > suckless.scm: (url "git://git.2f30.org/human.git")
…
> > messaging.scm:(url "git://git.psyced.org/git/psyclpc")
…
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ng0 transcribed 2.2K bytes:
> When a build invoked with --no-build-hook -K --log-file fails, this is the
> last output you'll see:
>
> 14:01.58 565 compiler warnings present.
> mach configuremachphase `configure' failed after 869.5 seconds
> note: keeping build director
they end).
If we don't record logs of failed builds, we should start doing that.
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Expected behavior would be that you get the location of the
build log.
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gt; > Using glibc-locales
> >
> > Does setting LC_ALL instead of LANG help? The LC_* variables take
> > precedence over LANG.
>
> setting LC_ALL didn't work. Same error.
How recent is the guix you have? Did you run guix pull and
guix package -u .* recently?
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the usual ones.
2.
I also think we should formalize how to deal with the collisions
or specific groups of collisions, so that we might have a better
way to tackle these issues.
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FAIL
GTester: last random seed: R02S8558f45fe09086531252e03ae246aedb
(pid=27854)
/i386/vhost-user/flags-mismatch: OK
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currently debugging the build of ksh-93 and I also need to read
every header of it to check if we have one bit of AT proprietary
copyright in there. As fedora packages it, the chances are high that
it can just be used as-is, but we should check it nevertheless.
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It works alright, but I have seen the exact same message while
trying to figure out why mate-terminal does not start.
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Is this a bug or just a mistake of where I put "--log-file"?
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Ludovic Courtès transcribed 0.4K bytes:
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
>
> > Right now the tor-hidden-service only supports IPv4 naming scheme,
> > while it is possible to define IPv6 for tor aswell.
>
> ‘tor-hidden-service’ does not interpret address
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.0K bytes:
> ng0 <n...@pragmatique.xyz> skribis:
>
> > ng0 transcribed 0.4K bytes:
> >> A feature-bug I forgot to report a while ago.
> >> It has been described on the mailinglist (or was
> >> it in my blog or some release
ng0 transcribed 2.5K bytes:
> Leo Famulari transcribed 2.2K bytes:
> > On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 09:37:22AM +, ng0 wrote:
> > > Efraim Flashner transcribed 4.1K bytes:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 06:56:51AM +, ng0 wrote:
> > > > > My really s
Danny Milosavljevic transcribed 0.8K bytes:
> Hi ng0,
>
> >guix environment --fallback --ad-hoc guix autoconf automake@1.15.1
> > make guile guile-ssh pkg-config gcc-toolchain libgcrypt gnutls guile-json
> > zlib bzip2 sqlite help2man gettext texinfo guile
*** [Makefile:2956: Makefile.in] Error 63
So what am I supposed to do now?
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> Hi,
>
> ng0 <contact@cryptolab.net> skribis:
>
> > One thing I like about the template of https://taler.net is the usage of
> > javascript free translations of text (jinja2 is used), easy to select
> > and write.
&
Leo Famulari transcribed 2.2K bytes:
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 09:37:22AM +0000, ng0 wrote:
> > Efraim Flashner transcribed 4.1K bytes:
> > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 06:56:51AM +, ng0 wrote:
> > > > My really strong guess is that we never updated the has
Efraim Flashner transcribed 4.1K bytes:
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 06:56:51AM +0000, ng0 wrote:
> > Leo Famulari transcribed 2.3K bytes:
> > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:15:47AM +, ng0 wrote:
> > > > - Forwarded message -
> > > >
> >
ng0 transcribed 1.3K bytes:
> Right now the tor-hidden-service only supports IPv4 naming scheme,
> while it is possible to define IPv6 for tor aswell.
>
> Someone should fix this.
man tor:
HIDDEN SERVICE OPTIONS
The following options are used to configure a hi
Right now the tor-hidden-service only supports IPv4 naming scheme,
while it is possible to define IPv6 for tor aswell.
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nhn4z-python-graphene-0.10.2.drv' failed
with exit code 100
guix build: error: build failed: build of
`/gnu/store/zkrdnmi2a5ashb863hdfpl0dxy5nhn4z-python-graphene-0.10.2.drv' failed
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Leo Famulari transcribed 2.3K bytes:
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:15:47AM +0000, ng0 wrote:
> > - Forwarded message -
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 18:21:19 +0900 (JST)
> > > To: ng0
> > > Cc: daisu...@users.sourceforge.net
> > > S
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> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 18:21:19 +0900 (JST)
> To: ng0
> Cc: daisu...@users.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: why has the hash for libpng-apng 1.6.28 changed?
>
> Hi,
>
> I calculated the hash for libpng-apng files on my loc
ng0 transcribed 3.1K bytes:
> Appended. I haven't asked upstream why it changed
> all I know is that I am currently packaging software
> which depends on this library and I'd like to drop
> my local correction.
I have sent an email to the upstream maintainer, asking why the hash has
Appended. I haven't asked upstream why it changed
all I know is that I am currently packaging software
which depends on this library and I'd like to drop
my local correction.
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Leo Famulari transcribed 2.9K bytes:
> On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 08:13:44PM +0000, ng0 wrote:
> > I don't know if they moved the file around, renamed it or
> > whatever, but the hash is now
> > "0m5nv70n9903x3xzxw9qqc6sgf2rp106ha0x6gix0xf8wcrljaab".
> > We sho
ng0 transcribed 2.6K bytes:
> ng0 transcribed 2.3K bytes:
> > At the moment the field (private-key) in /etc/guix/machines.scm expects
> > to be a file.
> > When you use GnuPG authentication keys for ssh logins, you have no
> > pubkey file, but you have a very lo
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 2.2K bytes:
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
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> > I think the method as described never really worked.
> >
> > When I do as you (and the manual) suggested, I no longer
> > have any results for ssh host env | grep &qu
ng0 transcribed 2.7K bytes:
> Currently vim-full in version 8.0.0494 is failing its testsuite:
…
We are able to build vim-full again. Closing.
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Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.8K bytes:
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
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> > Ludovic Courtès transcribed 2.2K bytes:
> >> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
> >>
> >> > Ludovic Courtès transcribed 2.8K bytes:
>
> [...]
>
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 2.2K bytes:
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
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> > Ludovic Courtès transcribed 2.8K bytes:
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> [...]
>
> >> >> The test is to run something like:
> >> >>
> >> >> $ ssh localhost env |
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 2.8K bytes:
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
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> > Ludovic Courtès transcribed 2.1K bytes:
> >> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
> >>
> >> > And this is from master running an offloading
Oops! Okay I found the mistake!
I forgot that I have this in my ng0/packages/gnunet.scm:
;; fuse, pointing to the tests disabled version of gnunet-git
(define-public gnunet-fuse
(let* ((commit "c25f3acb22f386f2836cd7c7ae21fcef272c0352")
(revision "2"))
(pa
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.7K bytes:
> Hi ng0,
>
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
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> > Ludovic Courtès transcribed 0.9K bytes:
> >> Hi ng0,
> >>
> >> config.log reads this:
> >>
> >> > configure:939
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 0.9K bytes:
> Hi ng0,
>
> config.log reads this:
>
> > configure:9394: gcc -c
> > -I/gnu/store/5cbyk5gmw2gj017d02vyibz3v6rdldz7-gnunetgf-0.10.114b59076f/include
> > -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -g -O2
> > -I/gnu/store/5cbyk
osed.
> You can view the full report at
> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=27388
>
> If you require further information, please followup to 27...@debbugs.gnu.org.
>
> debbugs.gnu.org maintainers
> (administrator, GNU bugs database)
>
>
Could someone tell m
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 2.1K bytes:
> ng0 <n...@infotropique.org> skribis:
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> > And this is from master running an offloading test as it is right now.
> > Both ends have GuixSD.
> >
> > user@abyayala ~$ guix offload test
> > guix offload: testing 1
> So this is on purpose, right? Sounds weird no?
>
> > How should we handle exceptions like this? Should packages get a new
> > property that would allow them to specify that they do not conflict with
> > a certain variant?
>
> Good question, we could add a property
I ran into this aswell.
And I think this (two different gtk+ versions) is the explanation for the
problems I get when trying to update the version of some of the packages.
More applications of XFCE4 have been ported to gtk+-3, but not everything.
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