bug#45571: Fwd: Re: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts

2021-01-02 Thread Jason Conroy
Hi Leo, On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 10:35 AM Leo Prikler wrote: > Hello Jason, > Am Samstag, den 02.01.2021, 09:52 -0500 schrieb Jason Conroy: > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 9:29 AM Leo Prikler < > > leo.prik...@student.tugraz.at> wrote: > > > Hi Jason, > > > Am Samstag, den 02.01.2021, 09:02 -0500 schri

bug#45571: Fwd: Re: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts

2021-01-02 Thread Leo Prikler
Hello Jason, Am Samstag, den 02.01.2021, 09:52 -0500 schrieb Jason Conroy: > On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 9:29 AM Leo Prikler < > leo.prik...@student.tugraz.at> wrote: > > Hi Jason, > > Am Samstag, den 02.01.2021, 09:02 -0500 schrieb Jason Conroy: > > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 10:11 PM Leo Prikler < > > >

bug#45571: Fwd: Re: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts

2021-01-02 Thread Leo Prikler
Hi Danny, Am Samstag, den 02.01.2021, 15:50 +0100 schrieb Danny Milosavljevic: > [...] > I agree, if in addition. > > (Or if a registry is undesireable, calculate the uids by user name. > These are the possibilities. If hashing user names is too uncommon > on > UNIX elsewhere, I say that we have

bug#45571: Fwd: Re: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts

2021-01-02 Thread Jason Conroy
Hi Danny, On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 9:50 AM Danny Milosavljevic wrote: > > >From the solutions we do have so far, I believe that making user > > > accounts an explicit part of service configuration (in what shape may > > > still be up for debate), > > Not everything needs to be user configurable.

bug#45571: Fwd: Re: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts

2021-01-02 Thread Jason Conroy
On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 9:29 AM Leo Prikler wrote: > Hi Jason, > Am Samstag, den 02.01.2021, 09:02 -0500 schrieb Jason Conroy: > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 10:11 PM Leo Prikler < > > leo.prik...@student.tugraz.at> wrote: > > > Hi Danny, > > > Am Samstag, den 02.01.2021, 02:40 +0100 schrieb Danny > >

bug#45571: Fwd: Re: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts

2021-01-02 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi Jason, On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 09:02:18 -0500 Jason Conroy wrote: > My reaction to this was not that defaults are bad, but that dispersing > numeric literals throughout the code is. In general that is not exactly true. What you want is some way to check the uids for collisions--and putting them

bug#45571: Fwd: Re: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts

2021-01-02 Thread Leo Prikler
Hi Jason, Am Samstag, den 02.01.2021, 09:02 -0500 schrieb Jason Conroy: > On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 10:11 PM Leo Prikler < > leo.prik...@student.tugraz.at> wrote: > > Hi Danny, > > Am Samstag, den 02.01.2021, 02:40 +0100 schrieb Danny > > Milosavljevic: > > > Hi Leo, > > > > > > On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 0

bug#45571: Fwd: Re: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts

2021-01-02 Thread Jason Conroy
On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 10:11 PM Leo Prikler wrote: > Hi Danny, > Am Samstag, den 02.01.2021, 02:40 +0100 schrieb Danny Milosavljevic: > > Hi Leo, > > > > On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 00:16:45 +0100 > > Leo Prikler wrote: > > > > > > And it indeed is possible to add (uid 4711) in the literal and it > > >

bug#45571: Fwd: Re: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts

2021-01-01 Thread Leo Prikler
Hi Danny, Am Samstag, den 02.01.2021, 02:40 +0100 schrieb Danny Milosavljevic: > Hi Leo, > > On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 00:16:45 +0100 > Leo Prikler wrote: > > > > And it indeed is possible to add (uid 4711) in the literal and it > > > will work > > > just fine. > > I'm aware you're joking, or at lea

bug#45571: Fwd: Re: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts

2021-01-01 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi Leo, On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 00:16:45 +0100 Leo Prikler wrote: > > And it indeed is possible to add (uid 4711) in the literal and it > > will work > > just fine. > I'm aware you're joking, or at least I hope you are, What? It's perfectly reasonable for a distribution to have stable system us

bug#45571: Fwd: Re: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts

2021-01-01 Thread Leo Prikler
Forgot to CC the ML. --- Begin Message --- Hi Danny, Am Freitag, den 01.01.2021, 21:22 +0100 schrieb Danny Milosavljevic: > Hi Leo, > > On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 19:44:12 +0100 > Leo Prikler wrote: > > > Ah, that puts things into perspective. In other words, the problem > > is > > not, that Guix doe