Re: EQP

2008-11-02 Thread Neal H. Walfield
Hi, Jason, > I see multiprogramming as bad as any real sense of > time is lost and all the problems of locking and synchronization arise. How do you deal with the following scenario: Consider a file server: it must handle multiple simultaneous requests; it has shared meta-data needs to be update

Re: kvm with hurd-k16.img

2008-11-02 Thread Vikram Vincent
Hello, 2008/11/2 Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi, > > --- On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | kvm -boot a -hda hurd-k16.img -fda grub-0.97-i386-pc.ext2fs -m 512 > \-- > > It was reported here: > http://paste.lisp.org/display/67296 > > Had to us

[bug #22861] bogus answer from pflocal to io_select SELECT_URG

2008-11-02 Thread Kalle Olavi Niemitalo
Follow-up Comment #1, bug #22861 (project hurd): ELinks 0.12pre2 includes a workaround in set_handlers(): * Hurd bug 22861: Work around select() falsely reporting exceptions in pipes. The workaround slows ELinks down a bit, so it may be reverted after this Hurd bug has been fixed.

Re: Weird O_RDWR flag definition

2008-11-02 Thread Kalle Olavi Niemitalo
Adam Tkac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, you could use condition like > > if (!((mode & O_RDWR) || (mode & O_RDONLY))) > die(); Better do it like this: if ((mode & O_ACCMODE) == O_WRONLY) die();

Re: A niche for the Hurd - dpkg -iO ftp://foo/bar/*.deb

2008-11-02 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Sonntag 02 November 2008 15:42:02 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Does it depend on having an FTP multiplexer setup at "ftp:", > It does. OK. I added that requirement in the niches post. Thanks! Arne -- -- My stuff: http://draketo.de - stories, songs, poems, programs and stuff :) -- Infinite

Re: A niche for the Hurd - multi-core systems

2008-11-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Matthew Ayres, le Sun 02 Nov 2008 15:05:07 +, a écrit : > No doubt this shows my naivety, but why has GNU never built its own > replacement for Mach? Just the same story: GNU used to be mostly userspace stuff. Then the Hurd servers brought some "kernel"ness, pushing the limit a bit further. Bu

Re: A niche for the Hurd - multi-core systems

2008-11-02 Thread Matthew Ayres
> > > > I would like to see the Hurd focusing on multi-core systems. > > > > > > Mach would need to be SMP-fixed first :) > > > > Does that mean the Hurd can't yet be used on multi-core systems? > > Hurd yes (though there are probably bugs), Mach no (as the smp code was > never maintained in the me

Re: kvm with hurd-k16.img

2008-11-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Shakthi Kannan, le Sun 02 Nov 2008 19:53:05 +0530, a écrit : > --- On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | kvm -boot a -hda hurd-k16.img -fda grub-0.97-i386-pc.ext2fs -m 512 > \-- > > It was reported here: > http://paste.lisp.org/display/67296 > > Had to use

Re: Niche for the Hurd - summary 2 - niches sorted according to necessary work

2008-11-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
BTW, I thought about smbfs: we'd need a servermux and sharemux there as well, in order to be able to cd /smb://host/share/dir Samuel

Re: A niche for the Hurd - multi-core systems

2008-11-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Arne Babenhauserheide, le Sun 02 Nov 2008 11:05:26 +0100, a écrit : > Am Dienstag 21 Oktober 2008 09:44:40 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Matthew Ayres, le Mon 20 Oct 2008 17:59:37 +0100, a écrit : > > > I would like to see the Hurd focusing on multi-core systems. > > > > Mach would need to be SMP-fi

Re: A niche for the Hurd - dpkg -iO ftp://foo/bar/*.deb

2008-11-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Arne Babenhauserheide, le Sun 02 Nov 2008 10:50:09 +0100, a écrit : > Am Sonntag 02 November 2008 01:23:15 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Arne Babenhauserheide, le Sun 02 Nov 2008 01:03:47 +0100, a écrit : > > > Am Montag 20 Oktober 2008 15:00:22 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > > > - Nice features: dpkg

Re: kvm with hurd-k16.img

2008-11-02 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | kvm -boot a -hda hurd-k16.img -fda grub-0.97-i386-pc.ext2fs -m 512 \-- It was reported here: http://paste.lisp.org/display/67296 Had to use it with -no-kvm-irqchip or -no-kvm-pit. For setting up kvm on debian,

kvm with hurd-k16.img

2008-11-02 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, I have setup bridging on the host, and running: qemu -boot a -hda hurd-k16.img -fda grub-0.97-i386-pc.ext2fs boots Hurd and networking works fine as well. I am using Debian Lenny with 2.6.26-1-686 kernel. I have installed kvm, kvm-sources and loaded kvm-intel module as well. When I try to

Niche for the Hurd - summary 2 - niches sorted according to necessary work

2008-11-02 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, I sorted the niches according to the amount of work necessary to get into them. Please comment (even if it's only a short sentence to one of the niches)! The interesting part is, that I didn't find any unfeasible idea... - http://www.bddebian.com/~wiki/community/weblogs/ArneBab/niche

Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check

2008-11-02 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > - All-in-one out-of-the-box distro running a webserver for crash-proof > > operation. > > I don't really see any advantages the Hurd would offer for ordinary > software appliances compared to other systems. The whole point of the >

Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check

2008-11-02 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I fear though that such radical things have little chance in Debian -- > so perhaps we actually need a custom distribution for that :-( Maybe it will have a chance, when the Debian people see the advantage of it. And while we're c

Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check

2008-11-02 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > About the only really unique feature I'm personally aware of besides of > the ones already mentioned, is the ability to give a user's processes > new group permissions in a running session. I never used it so far > however, and I wou

Re: A niche for the Hurd - multi-core systems

2008-11-02 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag 21 Oktober 2008 09:44:40 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > Matthew Ayres, le Mon 20 Oct 2008 17:59:37 +0100, a écrit : > > I would like to see the Hurd focusing on multi-core systems. > > Mach would need to be SMP-fixed first :) Does that mean the Hurd can't yet be used on multi-core systems?

Re: A niche for the Hurd - dpkg -iO ftp://foo/bar/*.deb

2008-11-02 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Sonntag 02 November 2008 01:23:15 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > Arne Babenhauserheide, le Sun 02 Nov 2008 01:03:47 +0100, a écrit : > > Am Montag 20 Oktober 2008 15:00:22 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > > - Nice features: dpkg -iO ftp://foo/bar/*.deb > > > > Could you explain what this does? > > It in