Re: qoth 2012 q1/q2, preliminary

2012-09-17 Thread Svante Signell
Arne, On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 23:29 +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Hi, > > I finally got around to drafting a qoth the week before last week. > > * Svante Signell [added](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug- > hurd/2012-03/msg00060.html) the basics of ADA support by making gnat build. >

Re: qoth 2012 q1/q2, preliminary

2012-09-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Arne Babenhauserheide, le Tue 18 Sep 2012 00:09:56 +0200, a écrit : > Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 23:35:35 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Arne Babenhauserheide, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 23:29:52 +0200, a écrit : > > > * Samuel Thibault [added TLS > > > support](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug- > >

Re: qoth 2012 q1/q2, preliminary

2012-09-17 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 23:35:35 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > Arne Babenhauserheide, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 23:29:52 +0200, a écrit : > > * Samuel Thibault [added TLS > > support](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug- > > hurd/2012-05/msg00046.html) to Hurd, getting us up to date with the > > sta

Re: qoth 2012 q1/q2, preliminary

2012-09-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Arne Babenhauserheide, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 23:29:52 +0200, a écrit : > * Samuel Thibault [added TLS support](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug- > hurd/2012-05/msg00046.html) to Hurd, getting us up to date with the standard > of secure networking. This TLS has nothing to do with network TLS act

qoth 2012 q1/q2, preliminary

2012-09-17 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, I finally got around to drafting a qoth the week before last week. I only checked bug-hurd for that, so it would be great if you could have a look at it and add any info I missed. I still need to convert this draft to prose and add a title, but I thought I’d send it now instead of stalling t

Re: lookup behaviour with root directory

2012-09-17 Thread Roland McGrath
O_DIRECTORY is not part of any Hurd RPC protocol. The implementation in __hurd_file_name_lookup is the only place that's intended to grok it. The problem seems to be in the server dir_lookup code that is skipping leading slashes. I really don't know why that is there at all. If it serves some v

Re: Questions on the interoperability between libc, gnumach and hurd servers

2012-09-17 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 19:19 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 19:07:29 +0200, a écrit : > > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 17:57 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:55:49 +0200, a écrit : > > > > Yes of course. That was maybe overkill. T

Re: Questions on the interoperability between libc, gnumach and hurd servers

2012-09-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 19:07:29 +0200, a écrit : > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 17:57 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:55:49 +0200, a écrit : > > > Yes of course. That was maybe overkill. Thanks for the links anyway :-) > > > > > > Any interest in me wri

Re: Questions on the interoperability between libc, gnumach and hurd servers

2012-09-17 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 17:57 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:55:49 +0200, a écrit : > > Yes of course. That was maybe overkill. Thanks for the links anyway :-) > > > > Any interest in me writing down some overview stuff, as I understand it? > > Of course it sho

Re: Questions on the interoperability between libc, gnumach and hurd servers

2012-09-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:55:49 +0200, a écrit : > Yes of course. That was maybe overkill. Thanks for the links anyway :-) > > Any interest in me writing down some overview stuff, as I understand it? > Of course it should be iterated on, several times. Well, please check what would be

Re: Questions on the interoperability between libc, gnumach and hurd servers

2012-09-17 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 14:29 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:13:13 +0200, a écrit : > > More links, thank you. > > ?! > > > I was hoping the hurd pages would be enough, but obviously they are > > not. > > Of course: we expect not to have to explain what an "o

Re: Questions on the interoperability between libc, gnumach and hurd servers

2012-09-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 14:13:13 +0200, a écrit : > More links, thank you. ?! > I was hoping the hurd pages would be enough, but obviously they are > not. Of course: we expect not to have to explain what an "operating system" is to developers. They're supposed to find such pages by t

Re: Questions on the interoperability between libc, gnumach and hurd servers

2012-09-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le Mon 17 Sep 2012 12:48:14 +0200, a écrit : > As I replied to Samuel, I'm not too fond of browsing web pages to find > information scattered in many places, not as an introduction to Hurd. > Where is the complete (tutorial) pdf to download and print out? A tutorial for what? That

Re: Questions on the interoperability between libc, gnumach and hurd servers

2012-09-17 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 13:47 +0200, Richard Braun wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:48:14PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > > > > You've spent more than a year working on this system, and you > > > > > still don't get the big picture of it, > > > > Maybe because the _reference_ manuals don't g

Re: Questions on the interoperability between libc, gnumach and hurd servers

2012-09-17 Thread Richard Braun
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:48:14PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/09/msg00021.html > > Not Hurd related, read the follow-up mails. > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2011/04/msg00040.html > > What's wrong with that posting? I am more patient by

Re: Questions on the interoperability between libc, gnumach and hurd servers

2012-09-17 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 11:42 +0200, Richard Braun wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 09:26:18PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > What lack of respect? Lack of respect for what. Your sometimes not very > > nice language? At least I don't call you names, as you do. And Samuel > > does try nicely to answ

Re: Questions on the interoperability between libc, gnumach and hurd servers

2012-09-17 Thread Richard Braun
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 09:26:18PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > What lack of respect? Lack of respect for what. Your sometimes not very > nice language? At least I don't call you names, as you do. And Samuel > does try nicely to answer my questions, but you only provoke. I don't know. Let's ask