Re: lost ssh access - where is a log?

2022-12-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Sergey Bugaev wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 7:34 AM Guy-Fleury Iteriteka wrote: There is a thread from bugaev that explain the issue and a partial fix : https://floss.social/@bugaevc/109422269238549581 Well, I guess that's my cue to wave hi to this list :) Welcome back! or citing, sa

Re: lost ssh access - where is a log?

2022-11-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel, Samuel Thibault wrote: See this post: https://toot.aquilenet.fr/@bugaevc@floss.social/109422315762760554 indeed, the mkdir /run/sshd/dev settrans -ac /run/sshd/dev/urandom /hurd/random trick gave me a working ssh, probably unsecure  as Sergey writes, but at least it proves we ha

Re: lost ssh access - where is a log?

2022-11-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel, Samuel Thibault wrote: It is one year old. ? No, it's 2 days old. See the workaround he posted there. Sorry, I was somehow misled, I don't know. Not accustomed to microblogging I gues. I see the several hacks about accessing /dev/urandom as well as having comments about arc4ran

Re: lost ssh access - where is a log?

2022-11-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hello! Guy-Fleury Iteriteka wrote: There is a thread from bugaev that explain the issue and a partial fix : https://floss.social/@bugaevc/109422269238549581 It is one year old... anyone experiencs my issues? I am puzzled: up to the day before my post, I was able to ssh in and it was a fresh

lost ssh access - where is a log?

2022-11-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi! after some updates and other works, I can no longer ssh into my HURD system. I can do a local log-in and I can telnet to it. ssh yields: $ ssh -Y 192.168.1.154 Connection reset by 192.168.1.154 port 22 I do not find any useful log in /var/log ! how can I get a ssh log? Cheers, Riccardo

installing from scratch - chicken and egg problem

2022-10-20 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, since my filesystem trashed, I have to reinstall HURD on my laptop. I have an older ISO image here. I also see that the stable ones are of the past year: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/stable/hurd-i386/iso-cd/ Once installed, if I try to upgrade the system, I get a chicken-and-egg p

Re: hang after reboot - fs read only

2022-10-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Probably some node was found to be not linked any more (see > https://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/open_issues/ext2fs_dtime/) and > ext2fs tried to drop it but since it's readonly it can't do it. > >> also, how can I fix it? I fear I need an external boot disk

hang after reboot - fs read only

2022-09-26 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I was upgradeing Hurd + Debian on real hardware (ThinkPad) and I left it running. I found out the system rebooted itself, so i don't know how far it progressed. If I reboot, boot doesn't finish I also tried recovery mode, but it does not complete - filesystem not unmounted cleanly, but then i

Re: On conscription, copyright assignment, and CVEs

2021-10-11 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Sergey, I sometimes wonder this bureaucracy! Sergey Bugaev wrote: > but in any case, it's been two months since the fixes have been > published. Everybody should have had plenty of time to upgrade. It's > also been possible for any attackers to infer what the vulnerabilities > were from the p

gecko/ArcticFox more GNU work - segmentation fault in python 2.7

2021-03-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I decided to continue working on my ArcticFox efforts on hurd. I found this patch by Richard Braun: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1029809 Being ArcticFox codebase around FF 40-45, it was relatively easy to adapt&apply! However, compilation halts with 62:47.37 In file in

missing epoll.h - gecko build

2021-03-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi all, continuing the journey of a custom gecko for HURD.  6:47.93 In file included from /home/multix/code/Arctic-Fox/ipc/chromium/src/third_party/libevent/epoll.c:36:  6:47.93 ../../dist/system_wrappers/sys/epoll.h:4:15: fatal error: sys/epoll.h: No such file or directory  6:47.93 4 | #

Re: wireless setup / tools for intel wireless

2021-02-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: dpkg -L wireless-tools-gnumach /usr/sbin/iwconfig it does But remember to use "su -", not only "su", to get your PATH to contain /usr/sbin. Indeed! or access it directly. However, none is detected: lo    no wireless extensions. /dev/eth  no wireless extensions

Re: PTHREAD_MUTEX_ADAPTIVE_NP undefined in Gecko

2021-02-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Paul Sonnenschein wrote: For this specific issue, you should be able to use the patch available at the following Debian bug report for NSPR: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=970659 (Alternatively, one might replace the #if with #ifdef PTHREAD_ADAPTIVE_INITIALIZER_NP as recommende

Re: PTHREAD_MUTEX_ADAPTIVE_NP undefined in Gecko

2021-02-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Richardm, Richard Braun wrote: The _NP suffix means non-posix, and is generally used for system-specific features. The use of "adaptive" mutexes is probably just an optimization, so it should be completely safe to just comment it out on systems where the macro doesn't exist (assuming it's a

wireless setup / tools for intel wireless

2021-02-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I got another laptop just to run HURD (more on its status in a separate mail). I'd like to try to setup wireless, if possible. I found as reference only some very old posts. I have installed wireless-tools-gnumach, but shouldn't I have "iwconfig" with it? can't find it. # inetutils-ifc

PTHREAD_MUTEX_ADAPTIVE_NP undefined in Gecko

2021-02-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, how is compilation of Gecko related browsers going on? I am trying to compile ArcticFox and I get this:  3:43.44 /home/multix/code/Arctic-Fox/nsprpub/pr/src/pthreads/ptsynch.c:60:48: error: ‘PTHREAD_MUTEX_ADAPTIVE_NP’ undeclared (first use in this function); did you mean ‘PTHREAD_MUTEX_

Re: Debian Hurd tests on real hardware - network, IRQ issues

2021-01-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel.. did you see this? does this give you any additional clue about my IRQ issue? Thanks, Riccardo Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi Samuel, > > > Samuel Thibault wrote: >>> Since you wrote me you pushed a new kernel, I just did apt-get update, >>> got a ne

Re: Debian Hurd tests on real hardware - network, IRQ issues

2021-01-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> Since you wrote me you pushed a new kernel, I just did apt-get update, >> got a new hurd. >> Unfortunately, the problem persists. > Ah, indeed, the com driver doesn't actually limits its probing according > to NCOM. Fixed upstream and pushed as pending for nex

Re: Debian Hurd tests on real hardware - network, IRQ issues

2020-12-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> [    3.491071] isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... >> [    3.845792] isapnp: No Plug & Play device found >> [    3.846113] Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled >> [    3.866946] 00:06: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4, base_baud = 115200) is a >> 1

Re: Debian Hurd tests on real hardware - network, IRQ issues

2020-11-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel, Samuel Thibault wrote: Apparently nobody started Hurd's GNU Mach micro-kernel on a system with 4 com ports indeed. I pushed to master a restriction to 2 ports only, to just avoid the issue. How do I test it are some kernel snapshots being build that I can install&try? You can try

Re: Debian Hurd tests on real hardware - network, IRQ issues

2020-11-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel! Samuel Thibault wrote: Riccardo Mottola, le dim. 22 nov. 2020 23:52:54 +0100, a ecrit: 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) That looks much less common. uncommon stuff is more fun :) I Guess that by being a genuine AMD, also the

Re: Debian Hurd tests on real hardware - network, IRQ issues

2020-11-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi! Samuel Thibault wrote: Apparently nobody started Hurd's GNU Mach micro-kernel on a system with 4 com ports indeed. I pushed to master a restriction to 2 ports only, to just avoid the issue. How do I test it are some kernel snapshots being build that I can install&try? This laptop appea

Re: Debian Hurd tests on real hardware - network, IRQ issues

2020-11-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
en by Donald Becker [    6.940511] via-rhine :00:12.0 eth0: VIA Rhine II at (ptrval), 00:c0:9f:37:94:6b, IRQ 4 [    6.941301] via-rhine :00:12.0 eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x7869 advertising 05e1 Link c5e1 Can this work under HURD? Thanks, Riccardo Riccardo Mottola wrote:

Re: Debian Hurd tests on real hardware - network, IRQ issues

2020-11-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
haring? It is interesting that the laptop has no RS232 port... where are they? sharing because of 4 ports with 2 IRQs, 3 & 4? Riccardo Mottola wrote: 1) A Compaq Presario with Pentium4 non-HT, it would be ideal, integrated LAN... it has a Radeon, so also a usually supported Card. It even ha

Re: Debian Hurd tests on real hardware - network, IRQ issues

2020-11-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel, Samuel Thibault wrote: Yes please, otherwise it's simply just divine-work to be able to say anything about whether it would be supposed to work (e.g. whether we'd have a driver or not). Fine, I will provide details for each computers in separate messages. Lacking "dmesg" and "ls

Debian Hurd tests on real hardware - network, IRQ issues

2020-11-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi! as I did long ago, I want again a "real hardware" machine to run HURD on, not just a vm. It is more fun, more real... and motivates me more to hack and test software on it! The machine I used to run it is gone and some old spare 32bit laptops are not good enough because they either have n

Re: real hardware and ethernet cards

2020-06-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, On 10/06/2020 20:02, Joshua Branson wrote: Well it is a good report of current "hardware" status! You tried your best! unfortunately, yes... but no luck. I used to have a 100% bare metal HURD machine... it was old, but worked well. But it was a Desktop. I never got it on a Laptop unf

Re: real hardware and ethernet cards

2020-06-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Richard Braun wrote: > This is an old race that definitely needs fixing. now being stubborn, I tried to hold another i386 laptop with PATA drive. The "old" and "donor" laptop I tried have the a similar architecture  both being ThinkPads with Pentium III I have also a Compaq Pentium IV. If I

Re: real hardware and ethernet cards

2020-06-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Richard Braun wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:34:55AM +0200, Riccardo Mottola wrote: >> Put HD back in old laptop. >> Boot halts at: >> Hurd server bootstrap: ext2fs[defice:hd0s1] exec >> >> Tried rebooting, it is stuck twice, > This is an old race th

Re: real hardware and ethernet cards

2020-06-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Michael Banck wrote: >> We have some support for this in the cardmgr-gnumach package. I don't >> know how that works, though. > I'm not sure anybody looked at that in the last 15 years; IIRC it was > put together with a hot needle back then and I'd be very surprised if it > still worked at lea

Mounting USB key

2020-05-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi all, does HURD see USB keys ? I need to transfer a file to a system and I have no network I fear not, in dmesg I see hd0 hard disk, hd2 cdrom no scsi hosts and I think USB is always through SCSI. I tried running fdisk on /dev/sd0 and there is nothing Riccardo

real hardware and ethernet cards

2020-02-20 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi! I installed GNU Hurd Debian on a "real" i386 hardware, a ThinkPad with Pentium III. Things do work, which is nice! But I have an issue, no network hardware. The laptop has no integrated ethernet port - only slots where I have both a wired and an wifi card which have working drivers under linux

Re: X crashing on startup

2018-06-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: Just in case of an ABI incompatibility, I queued a rebuild of the mouse and keyboard drivers. Actually it's a mere API incompatibility, it doesn't build at all on all archs... I have reported the bug. fun (not really). Thanks for finding the root. Strange it is we

Re: X crashing on startup

2018-06-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so: undefined symbol: xf86GetOS I suppose there is an issue with Xorg.. any clues? The message above looks promising:) the mouse driver doesn't know about HURD ? or better we don't implement fx86GetOS Riccardo

X crashing on startup

2018-06-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, ater the latest upgrade, I cannot start X anymore, it may be related to the message another user reported. INteresting is also that the screen in virtualbox remains black and does not return to console. I see this error after startx: X.Org X Server 1.20.0 X Protocol Version 11, Revisio

Re: X Terminal issues

2017-10-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel, Samuel Thibault wrote: Riccardo Mottola, on mer. 20 sept. 2017 23:53:17 +0200, wrote: xterm: Error 27, errno 1073741849: Inappropriate ioctl for device Reason: spawn: ioctl() failed on TIOCLSET There are probably a lot more things like that which we shouldn't expose. (At

X Terminal issues

2017-09-20 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi HURDers, Both if I start xterm as uxterm, I get these errors: $ uxterm xterm: Error 27, errno 1073741849: Inappropriate ioctl for device Reason: spawn: ioctl() failed on TIOCLSET $ xterm xterm: Error 27, errno 1073741849: Inappropriate ioctl for device Reason: spawn: ioctl() failed on TIOCLS

Re: aptitude not working

2016-11-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Richard Braun wrote: I increased the allocated RAM size of the VM to 1024MB and now I read this: Try 2g or even 3g. I can't allocate more.. 2G is about the limit for my host, but I did allocate 2048 MB of ram, did a "fresh boot", accessed directly root and started aptitude and issued "

Re: aptitude not working

2016-11-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Miguel Figueiredo wrote: I think not. I've "always" seen one the annoying small thing in aptitude in Hurd, pressing q to quit and it does not quits. If i repeat the q and then Ctrl+C, it quits and I see the on the console. I've seen this on Virtualbox, but now i have it on qemu with th

Re: aptitude not working

2016-11-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Richard, Richard Braun wrote: From what you describe, it doesn't seem to be a hang caused by this. With your amount of memory, you shouldn't even have a HIGHMEM segment, which makes bugs even less likely. So I don't know what happened to your system, or if you're doing something wrong or not

Re: aptitude not working

2016-11-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Richard Braun wrote: Yes, but specifically : vm_page: page table size: 786414 entries (43008k) vm_page: DMA: pages: 4080 (15M), free: 0 (0M) vm_page: DMA: min:500 low:600 high:1000 vm_page: DIRECTMAP: pages: 233472 (912M), free: 217899 (851M) vm_page: DIRECTMAP: min:11673 low:14008 high:233

Re: aptitude not working

2016-11-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Richard, Richard Braun wrote: On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 04:59:09PM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: it still had plenty of free RAM, the system wasn't doing anything else. Let's assume that's the case, although it may still happen that, between two top samples, the system could

Re: aptitude not working

2016-11-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Richard Braun wrote: On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 03:51:26PM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: I did try checking top in a second terminal. On opening, aptitude has 66mb RES 132MB virtual after "g" it grows just a little more, I hit gh once again and It ramps up to 72Mb RES, 128 VIRT...

Re: aptitude not working

2016-11-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Richard Braun wrote: I use aptitude and have no such problem. On the other hand, the Hurd may be hanging. Using aptitude can lead to large memory usage, which can increase swap usage, and fill kernel memory (in older kernels at least). So, what's your version of GNU Mach ? And how much memo

aptitude not working

2016-11-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, anybody of you using aptitude? It has a strange malfunction to me: I select the action on packages (e.g. opdate or install) then confirm the next review step then, if necessary, downloads will happen, then it hangs. It never starts unpacking/configuring things. I can hit ctr-lc and notice

Re: Hurd shutdown problems

2016-08-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Justus Winter wrote: >Have you tried using halt-hurd instead of shutdown? As far as I can >remember, halt-hurd has never caused file system corruption for me, >but I'm pretty sure shutdown did way back when I was still trying >to use it. That is correct. halt-hurd is basically halt -f, whi

Re: GNUstep - check for reuse address

2016-01-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Svante Signell wrote: Depends on how the test is made. SO_REUSEADDR is defined in bits/socket.h but is not functional (yet). I attach the test below. The test is clearly done on AF_INET, so from what you tell, it is expected to work. I know gnustep has a setting to work with local and w

GNUstep - check for reuse address

2016-01-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, gnustep base has a test: configure:6125: checking whether SO_REUSEADDR is broken the result is: configure:6160: result: no however, once run, I get an error about the reuse. Manually changing the config.h, makes the code work. I wonder thus why the test passes... is it lying? Someone h

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd 2015 released!

2015-04-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel Thibault wrote: Debian GNU/Hurd 2015 released! It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2015. congratulations! Riccardo

Re: GNUstep TalkSoup running on HURD

2015-04-19 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: Indeed! And sometimes it is nice to congrat people on the achievement, so let me say "well done!":) indeed. It is true that GNUstep hides a lot of portability issues, so once you get the core libraries to work, a decently written app is easy. But TalkSoup has its

GNUstep TalkSoup running on HURD

2015-04-19 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, sometimes it is nice to share success stories instead of just bugs! Years ago on my blog I had a screenshot with GNUstep running on HURD on real harware with some apps, including our prototypal browser. I haven't been able in any way to get HURD running on real hardware again, there has bee

Re: boot hangs, corruption at every attempt

2015-04-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Riccardo Mottola wrote: They are just a few kb, but of course inconvenient to read, sorry. Does this help? can we know which process is hanging? I forgot to mention that I have frozen the virtual machine in the kernel debugger, so I could in case resume it and ive more information

Re: boot hangs, corruption at every attempt

2015-04-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Justus Winter wrote: Use `show all tasks' then. >I do not want to spam the list, so I can send them if somebody finds >useful checking them. Don't send screenshots. If you must, copy the text. Use qemu's `-curses'. Since I have virtualbox, I cant copy the text, I did not find anything

Re: boot hangs, corruption at every attempt

2015-04-01 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, (no need to put me in CC everytime, I'm subscribed) Justus Winter wrote: No. Although the shutdown sometimes hangs, it is quite reliable nowadays. Just do a normal sysvinit shutdown (e.g. use halt, or shutdown). I did a shutdown -hP now. I did a "sync" before... and I had no ssh/telnet l

Re: boot hangs, corruption at every attempt

2015-04-01 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Justus Winter wrote: Quoting Riccardo Mottola (2015-04-01 16:17:10) Since it appears tightly related with the FS (I was able to boot with one or several reboots into recovery and forcing fsck) I am clearly concerned that the shutdown is never clean, so it all adds up creating uncertainty

Re: boot hangs, corruption at every attempt

2015-04-01 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Justus Winter wrote: Quoting Samuel Thibault (2015-04-01 13:25:27) Riccardo Mottola, le Wed 01 Apr 2015 13:20:05 +0200, a écrit : using my HURD instance in VirtualBox shows it is extremely unreliable. It almost always hangs at boot. A also see the occasional hang at boot, not at this

boot hangs, corruption at every attempt

2015-04-01 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, using my HURD instance in VirtualBox shows it is extremely unreliable. It almost always hangs at boot. Shut down is usually not clean, I get some errors reported to be harmless. As soon as I boot again, I usually get a hang. In this case the FS is marked as dirty, but no check starts (sc

Re: running x11 (virtualbox)

2015-03-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: Riccardo Mottola, le Mon 23 Mar 2015 18:11:12 +0100, a écrit : Reading http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install about X.Org. Right so, I thought that because of the new login style I already had a "console". What do you mean by "new login

Re: running x11 (virtualbox)

2015-03-23 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel Thibault wrote: Riccardo Mottola, le Mon 23 Mar 2015 15:29:59 +0100, a écrit : I have troubles starting X11. If I run startx, I see: X: unable to determine if running on a console X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. xinit: giving up <...> Suggestions? R

running x11 (virtualbox)

2015-03-23 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi I have troubles starting X11. If I run startx, I see: X: unable to determine if running on a console X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. xinit: giving up <...> Suggestions?

Re: task ext2fs deallocatin a bogus port

2015-03-18 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Hi, Justus Winter wrote: The last shutdon like this required me to fsck twice the filesystem before it booted again! The problem at hand is likely harmless. ok, I won't bother, it is a nuisance though, a "reboot" fails since the shutdown hangs. At reboot the file system is not clean,

task ext2fs deallocatin a bogus port

2015-03-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, it says "most probably a bug", so I report it. This is happening on poweroff and I can now conveniently take a screenshot since I run in a VM. The last shutdon like this required me to fsck twice the filesystem before it booted again! Riccardo

Re: aptitude hangs

2015-03-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Justus Winter wrote: I sometimes see /hurd/netdde getting stuck. Try to ping your system. If that's the problem, you could to try a different NIC. I can telnet into the system and perform a ping, I'd say network is working. This being a virtual machine, I don't have many options for a NIC

aptitude hangs

2015-03-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I am now in the same situation that brought previously my hurd VM to a hang. I attach a screenshot of the xterm. After having downloaded a number of packages, it just hangs. No hight cpu usage. From another console I checked: root@vmhurd:~# vmstat pagesize: 4096 size:

Re: hurd haning on boot (virtual box)

2015-03-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Justus Winter wrote: If I should guess I'd say your root filesystem got corrupted and the root translator just crashes. /hurd/startup should notice that but doesn't for some reason. Or it ran out of space and thus crashed. Try to break into the kernel debugger using ctrl-alt-d, and enter `

hurd haning on boot (virtual box)

2015-03-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, do you guys have any experience using HURD on VirtualBox? It is my last resort currently to test a bit of hurd 1. original workstation which run HURD for 6 years: incapable of reinstall: low memory and somehow incompatible with current GRUB (wrote to GRUB ML, got no answer) 2. spare laptop

Re: HURD installation on laptop

2015-01-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, On 2015-01-28 16:19:05 +0100 Svante Signell wrote: Hi, some questions/thoughts: 1) Can you boot in single-user mode? no, same problem 2) Did you unstall a gnumach-dbg kernel? no: this is a fresh CD install 3) Did you install Hurd on a partition? 4) Did you format that partition

Re: HURD installation on laptop

2015-01-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Justus Winter wrote: What happened to you at 1) is most likely just bad luck then. There is no reason to believe that the bootstrap is different at this point. The current bootstrap mechanism is unfortunately not very robust and it is known to randomly hang. I tried several times though, n

HURD installation on laptop

2015-01-25 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I'm trying to install HURD on a laptop PIII 700, 392MB Ram, wireless card ("ral") full image, 5-1-2015 1) text install. Install hangs idle (the cpu fan stops, thus I suppose no loop) start ext2fs: Hurd server bootstrap: ext2fs[gunzip:device:rd0] exec 2) pseudo-graphical install: gives so

Re: HURD and a Laptop

2015-01-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Samuel, Samuel Thibault wrote: Riccardo Mottola, le Thu 22 Jan 2015 17:19:15 +0100, a écrit : >I already installed HURD, booted and tried to ifconfig /dev/eth0 but that >doesn't work with the server dying. I suppose the device is not there. Our netdde translator doesn't

HURD and a Laptop

2015-01-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, since I have so many troubles getting Hurd running on my ol' and faithful computer again, with my GRUB problems being the nastiest one, I thought of an alternative strategy. It is most probably realy a GRUB problem, but at the end it affects my ability to run HURD again. Being no fun of

ext2fs error during usage

2014-12-26 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I was installing software from source after having compiled it, that is just a massive copy exercise when my machine froze with an assertion "refcount detected use-after-free". I attach the whole screenshot with context and error. Riccardo

Re: grub reinstall / grub keeps rebooting

2014-12-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: Did you try to put a linux partition on this box too? The idea would be to check whether its grub has the same kind of issue. no, not yet. Btw, they are two boxes now! The HDD is not big enough. But I could try on another HDD temporarily, perhaps the best bet would b

Re: grub reinstall / grub keeps rebooting

2014-12-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, I installed everything on a "host" machine (same architecture as my target box, just more ram and more Mhz). I end up with something bootable! However if I put the disk in my original box, it just keeps rebooting, I don't even get the grub

grub reinstall / grub keeps rebooting

2014-12-01 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I installed everything on a "host" machine (same architecture as my target box, just more ram and more Mhz). I end up with something bootable! However if I put the disk in my original box, it just keeps rebooting, I don't even get the grub screen. Thus I suppose it is grub that forces this

Re: reinstallation with host machine - no success

2014-11-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Svante Signell wrote: Which image did you use? And if using the latest image did you enable network or not? I think you should use a known working image and install without upgrading (i.e. no network) intil the install is completed. It can happen that the latest sid version is broken (happened to

reinstallation with host machine - no success

2014-11-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, since reinstalling on my old memory machine is a dead-end, I tried another route: I took the disk from my PII machine to another box, which has 1GB of RAM, 1.6GHz processor but still has PATA so I could attach my disk. Since the old box did run HURD for years, I hope it will become usable

Re: Problem with reinstallation, bootloader

2014-11-12 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, On 11/13/14 01:16, Samuel Thibault wrote: Riccardo Mottola, le Thu 13 Nov 2014 01:05:57 +0100, a écrit : On 11/12/14 11:53, Samuel Thibault wrote: If I enable DDE, I get a network card detected, since DHCP is attempted, if I do not, I get the message that no network card is present. DHCP

Re: Problem with reinstallation, bootloader

2014-11-12 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, On 11/12/14 11:53, Samuel Thibault wrote: Riccardo Mottola, le Wed 12 Nov 2014 11:30:29 +0100, a écrit : 1) if I try text-install, I select additional components (I only add DDE for network stuff), Why selection additional components by hand? The automatic way should just work. If I

Re: Problem with reinstallation, bootloader

2014-11-12 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: On the official Debian hurd ports page, simply: http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-cd it points at https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/ and https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/installer/cdimage/ Darn, I had to search further, instead I got t

Re: Problem with reinstallation, bootloader

2014-11-11 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Riccardo Mottola, le Mon 03 Nov 2014 11:46:24 +0100, a écrit : I used the "text only" install. The pseud-graphical (exactly as the rescue mode) sends my monitor (I tried both an LCD and a CRT) to a black screen, but with a signal, but not out of

Re: Problem with reinstallation, bootloader

2014-11-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola
not access other consoles or saw meaningful errors on screen to report. thank you. Riccardo Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, since I cannot boot my machine anymore since weeks, even after trying to install the previous versions of hurd, gnumach and libc I did not get the box to end the boot sequ

Problem with reinstallation, bootloader

2014-11-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, since I cannot boot my machine anymore since weeks, even after trying to install the previous versions of hurd, gnumach and libc I did not get the box to end the boot sequence. Thus, since I reinstalled everything, I have all my /home data in a separate partition anyway. Since my CD was n

Re: hang on bootstrap

2014-10-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: Could you try to run a Linux sid Debian system on this machine? hurd-i386 has switched to the i586 triplet, like all other Debian i386 port, and maybe there are some corner cases which haven't been dealt with, and they would most probably show up with linux-i386 too. i

Re: hang on bootstrap

2014-10-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I finally had some time to tinker with my HURD box again. Justus Winter wrote: If you are running a debug kernel (and you should), you can break into the kernel debugger using ctrl-alt-d and do: Sadly I am not. I have only one kernel in my /boot dir and it doesn't respond to ctrl-alt-d. a

Re: hang on bootstrap

2014-09-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Justus Winter wrote: The output changes, but hangs in the same place: <...> start ext2fs: ext2fs: device:hd0s1: warning: FILESYSTEM NOT UNMOUNTED CLEANLY; PLEASE fsck ext2fs: device:hd0s1: warning: MOUNTED READ-ONLY; MUST USE 'fsysopts ''writable' Hurd server bootstrap: ext2fs[device:hd0s1]

Re: hang on bootstrap

2014-09-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
drive. On 09/08/2014 10:30 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, after the last udpate (I admit, a couple of weeks ago before the holiday season) which was apparently successful, my system doesn't boot anymore. I get: <...> start ext2fs: ext2fs: device:hd0s1: warning: FILESYSTEM NOT UN

hang on bootstrap

2014-09-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, after the last udpate (I admit, a couple of weeks ago before the holiday season) which was apparently successful, my system doesn't boot anymore. I get: <...> start ext2fs: ext2fs: device:hd0s1: warning: FILESYSTEM NOT UNMOUNTED CLEANLY; PLEASE fsck Hurd server bootstrap: ext2fs[device:

Re: hurd and BIOS/RTC problem

2014-05-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: The default seems to be yes, according to /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh. You could try to set it to no. Samuel I set it to "no" and uncommented the line, i still have the problem. It is interesting that a single-boot user too yields the problem. However if booting gets int

Re: hurd and BIOS/RTC problem

2014-05-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: Do you have HWCLOCKACCESS enabled in /etc/default/hwclock and rcS? Otherwise I don't see how a BIOS manages to let an OS disturb its RTC... I don't have it, as I wrote, at least, the line is commented out. What's the default? shoul I explicitely set it to NO? I noti

Re: hurd and BIOS/RTC problem

2014-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: Do you have HWCLOCKACCESS enabled in /etc/default/hwclock and rcS? Otherwise I don't see how a BIOS manages to let an OS disturb its RTC... The line is commented out. # Set this to yes if it is possible to access the hardware clock, # or no if it is not. #HWCLOCKACCE

Re: problem installing SVN

2014-04-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi all, ùjust for the record. Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, I had subversion installed, during an apt-get upgrade it broke, if I try to install it now I get: The following packages have unmet dependencies: subversion : Depends: libsvn1 (= 1.7.9-1+nmu3+b1) but it is not going to be

hurd and BIOS/RTC problem

2014-04-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, while testing my old HURD box (remember, real hardware, not a VM) I noticed that I have troubles with my BIOS settings and the RTC. The preface is that about a year ago, with my old install, I did not have this behavior. If I boot into the hurd, the clock settings are gone! The BIOS fai

problem installing SVN

2014-04-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I had subversion installed, during an apt-get upgrade it broke, if I try to install it now I get: The following packages have unmet dependencies: subversion : Depends: libsvn1 (= 1.7.9-1+nmu3+b1) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken pac

Re: problem on shut-down

2014-04-11 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Justus Winter wrote: appears to be something with my xinted/telnetd! Could you please specify which packages you are using? Debian has three telnetd packages, and I don't seem to be able to locate the xinetd package at all. Justus dpkg-query shows me: ii telnet

Re: problem on shut-down

2014-04-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, let me add also: 4) connect through telnet, gracefully close the telnet connection by logging out, shut down: hang Riccardo Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, I was able to investigate this more. I have the inconveninece that at every HURD shtudown (even if graceful) I lookse my date&

Re: problem on shut-down

2014-04-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I was able to investigate this more. I have the inconveninece that at every HURD shtudown (even if graceful) I lookse my date&time in the bios... Justus Winter wrote: Sometimes bugs can't be easily reproduced, sadly. One needs to gather >information in the best possible way then... Yes,

Re: problem on shut-down

2014-04-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi,, Justus Winter wrote: >it's not inetd. It actually stops here: > >root@ithil:~# ps -x Please use ps -Ax: root@pluto ~ # ps -x|wc --lines 313 root@pluto ~ # ps -Ax|wc --lines 349 I'll do next time :) I actually used ps -x just to look what init.d process was being run with "stop". >11434

Re: problem on shut-down

2014-04-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, On 04/02/2014 02:20 PM, Justus Winter wrote: Ok, I installed openbsd-inetd and telnetd on a test vm. service {start,stop} openbsd-inetd work as expected. it's not inetd. It actually stops here: root@ithil:~# ps -x PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 8 - S 88 - S--mode=755 tmpfs 89

Re: problem on shut-down

2014-04-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, thinks are getting more intricated. Justus Winter wrote: Ok, I installed openbsd-inetd and telnetd on a test vm. service {start,stop} openbsd-inetd work as expected. here too... multix@ithil:/var/log$ sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd stop [sudo] password for multix: [ ok ] Stopping interne

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