IRC meeting 2012-01-11

2012-01-10 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Meeting like every Wednesday at 19:00 UTC, in channel #hurd on irc.freenode.net. Everyone taking an interest in Hurd development is invited to participate and/or suggest discussion topics :-) -antrik-

IRC meeting 2012-01-04

2012-01-04 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Today is the first Wednesday this year -- which means we are meeting again, as usual at 19:00 UTC in channel #hurd on irc.freenode.net :-) Everyone is invited to participate and/or propose Hurd-related topics. -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-11-30

2011-11-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Another Wednesday is coming, so let's meet as usual at 19:00 UTC in channel #hurd on irc.freenode.net. As always everyone is invited to participate :-) -antrik-

Re: [PATCH 4/4] Add a monotonic time device

2011-11-24 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:10:16PM +0100, Pino Toscano wrote: struct mapped_time_value_extended { integer_t seconds; integer_t microseconds; integer_t check_seconds; integer_t mapped_time_magic; I think version would be more descriptive than magic... And the bikeshed should be

Re: user-level drivers

2011-11-16 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:02:58AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: Considering the target of user-level drivers, I've come to a few biting points: - we should have a PCI arbitrer in the end. - that arbitrer should permit to confine drivers to resources of only one PCI device, no more

IRC meeting 2011-11-16

2011-11-16 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, For those following email in near real time: let's try to meet as usual at 19:00 UTC, in channel #hurd on irc.freenode.net, and discuss some Hurd stuff. -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-11-09

2011-11-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Reminder for the usual meeting on Wednesday at 19:00 UTC in channel #hurd on irc.freenode.net. Drop by and have a chat with other folks interested in the Hurd :-) -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-11-02 (mind DST idiocy!)

2011-10-31 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, IRC meeting as usual on Wednesday in channel #hurd on irc.freenode.net, at 19:00 UTC. Keep in mind that most of Europe (and possibly other regions too) switched from idiotic time to normal time last weekend -- so 19:00 UTC means a different time on your local clock now! -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-10-26

2011-10-26 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, A late reminder for another IRC meeting: as usual on Wednesday (that is today), at 19:00 UTC, in channel #hurd on irc.freenode.net. Everyone invited :-) -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-10-19

2011-10-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, It's Wednesday again -- which means I'm long overdue writing another meeting announcement/reminder. 19:00 UTC, irc.freenode.net #hurd; everone invited to join... You know the drill :-) -antrik-

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-10-16 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 12:48:37PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Furthermore considering that the kernel driver interface will be temporary anyways, I'm not really concerned about compromising the Hurd architecture... Time is running slowly in the Hurd universe. A temporary

Re: Questionnaire

2011-10-09 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 07:44:46PM -0400, Kyle Bayes wrote: Sorry for the late answer... I'm desperately trying to catch up with the backlog in my inbox. I work as a software programmer and web designer/programmer, writing free software for a small company in my hometown. Nice :-) I've

.gitignore (was: Build improvements and warning fixes)

2011-10-09 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 01:23:41PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore [...] +*~ Err... That doesn't look like anything auto-generated by the build system? I suspect it's for emacs backup files or similar local trash. Please use local ignore rules for this

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-10-09 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 01:44:56PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Olaf Buddenhagen wrote: I could try to reach a consensus with Samuel, and present it to you as a fixed decision In the end it will happen that way. After all it is you who have the overall interest in Hurd, whereas

IRC meeting 2011-10-05

2011-10-04 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wednesday we meet as usual at 19:00 UTC in channel #hurd on irc.freenode.net, to discuss various Hurd-related topics. Anyone interested in Hurd development is invited to join us, and also to propose topics and ask questions :-) -antrik-

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-10-01 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 09:11:54PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: it looks like we need two fundamental decisions now, or else the contraints become too fuzzy for developing the desired feature: [...] It makes no sense to start working on them before a decision is made. Indeed, it's an

Re: Degradation of GNU/Hurd ``system performance''

2011-09-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 06:42:22AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: Over a period of a couple of weeks (mostly light load), many things become increasingly more sluggish; until finally the system dies with paging errors. Swap usage also rises constantly over this time, generally

Re: Implicit IN?

2011-09-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 05:34:53PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: olafbuddenha...@gmx.net, le Fri 23 Sep 2011 03:26:21 +0200, a écrit : Maybe I'm missing something, but I fail to see why integers or character arrays would by any more implicitly IN than other types?... Because they

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-09-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 05:36:11PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: olafbuddenha...@gmx.net, le Fri 23 Sep 2011 03:13:53 +0200, a écrit : (Doing manual marshalling is extra effort; and it will have to change again when moving to userspace drivers Why would it have to change again?

IRC meeting 2011-09-28

2011-09-26 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, IRC meeting for everyone interested in Hurd development as always on Wednesday at 19:00 UTC, in channel #hurd on irc.freenode.net. -antrik-

Re: libpcap2?

2011-09-24 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:10:51PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Any chances of porting libpcap2 to GNU/{hurd,kfreebsd-*}? Or should build dependencies for these archs avoid it? Consequences? Note that there is a GSoC task about libcap. -antrik-

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-09-23 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:23:04PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Olaf Buddenhagen wrote 9 Sep 2011 00:45:44 +0200: Now i am puzzling whether i shall try to describe a struct in MIG or whether i shall serialize and de-serialize to and from a byte array. Unless there is some practical

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-09-23 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 04:49:55PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: i had to learn that a kvm emulated CD-ROM appears as /dev/hd2. Is there no option to control this? In such things qemu often offers a choice... OTOH, machines able to run Mach natively are indeed more likely to have an ATAPI

Mach panic: thread has unexpected state

2011-09-21 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, While shutting down a subhurd today, I encounted a Mach panic; and I already encountered a rather similar one once a couple of months ago. (Might also have been while shutting down subhurd, but I can't say for sure anymore.) I'm attaching both traces -- perhaps someone gets an idea. Note

IRC meeting 2011-09-21

2011-09-20 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, A late reminder for the weekly IRC meeting on Wednesday 19:00 UTC, as always on irc.freenode.net channel #hurd. Please visit and/or propose discussion topics :-) -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-09-14

2011-09-14 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, I forgot to mention that of course we are meeting as always today (Wednesday) at 19:00 UTC, in channel #hurd on irc.freenode.net. Feel free to join us, and/or prpose interesting discussion topics :-) -antrik-

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-09-13 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 12:08:39PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: routine device_set_status( device : device_t; in flavor : dev_flavor_t; in status : dev_status_t ); Why no in or out before parameter

Re: ChangeLog/commit messages

2011-09-09 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:06:09PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: On the other hand, comments such as Olaf's quoted above (``Instead of [...]'') should in fact not be put into the ChangeLog/commit message, but should be put (in a slightly altered form, of course) into the code itself: to

Re: git clone fails

2011-09-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:51:36PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: There is no branch named ``master'' in the hurd/glibc.git repository, and after downloading all the stuff, git clone will typicall check out this branch, which then fails. git clone checks out whatever HEAD points to.

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-09-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:51:15PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: The idea came to me to have a generic RPC with two-way parameter transmission and a function code. Similar to the job of Unix ioctl(). It would reduce future work when other new kernel calls shall be implemented. No no,

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-09-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:15:52PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: $ git clone git.savannah.gnu.org:/srv/git/hurd/gnumach.git Cloning into gnumach... The authenticity of host 'git.savannah.gnu.org (140.186.70.72)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-09-07 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 03:56:30PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Samuel Thibault wrote: But i was uncertain to which side of the RPC gap this belongs, because i could not spot a function device_get_status() outside toplevel directory gnumach. (Where is the RPC stub of the function ? Where

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-09-07 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 06:32:55PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Would it be a problem to transport MAX_BUF + 252 bytes through a RPC ? Not sure what MAX_BUF is here; but there are no limitations on the amount of data transferred in an RPC :-) Olaf Buddenhagen: Well, if we need to go

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-09-06 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 12:33:00AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: However, I realize that the status parameter of the device_get_status RPC is out only, not inout, so device_get_status alone can not provide complete support. One way would be to use a set/get pair. Well, if we need to go

Re: Degradation of GNU/Hurd ``system performance''

2011-09-05 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:32:03AM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: Building a certain GCC configuration on a freshly booted system: 11 h. Remove build tree, build it again (2nd): 12 h 50 min. Huh. Remove build tree, reboot, build it again (1st): back to 11 h. Remove build tree, build it

IRC meeting 2011-09-07

2011-09-05 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, We meet as usual on Wednesday at 19:00 UTC, channel #hurd on irc.freenode.net. As always everyone is encouraged to join and/or to propose discussion topics :-) -antrik-

Re: DDE - Commit fb489ff causes FTBFS

2011-09-04 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:29:13AM -0700, Da Zheng wrote: On 7/21/11 2:17 PM, Da Zheng wrote: On 06/30/11 05:46, Samuel Thibault wrote: Antrik told me Zheng Da has some cleaned tree on some box, but didn't know where exactly... I think all my changes have been uploaded to incubator.

Re: Real-time operation of Mach microkernel?

2011-09-04 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:37:54AM +0200, Richard Braun wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 03:58:40PM -0400, John Wason wrote: I am a robotics engineer and find Hurd's design interesting. It is difficult to run robotic software on a full operating system because the kernel is way to

IRC meeting 2011-08-31

2011-08-31 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Another week has passed, another IRC meeting ahead -- as usual on Wednesday (i.e. today) at 19:00 UTC, irc.freenode.net channel #hurd. I hope we will have more participants than last time, now that GHM is over... And perhaps someone wants to talk about Hurd at GHM :-) Also I just learned

Re: Interface for SCSI transactions ?

2011-08-31 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 05:47:25PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: my second try ot install of GNU/Hurd on kvm obviously succeeded. :)) Great :-) I still have to find out where the RPC from device_get_status() arrives and how to perform scsi_ioctl_send_command() on that side of the gap.

Re: user-level drivers

2011-08-26 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 03:22:06AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: What about using the I/O port scheme? That is, decide_intr_notify doesn't enable IRQ notifications, but instead just returns a handle (compare i386_io_perm_create) that is then passed to device_irq_enable to

IRC meeting 2011-08-24

2011-08-23 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Just a reminder for the weekly IRC meeting on Wednesday 19:00 UTC, on irc.freenode.net channel #hurd. As usual we will discuss various topics about Hurd development, PR, or anything else Hurd-related. Everyone interested in the Hurd is invited to visit and participate in the discussion, or

IRC meeting 2011-08-10

2011-08-09 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Meeting as always on Wednesday at 19:00 UTC on irc.freenode.net, channel #hurd. Everyone is invited to join the discusson or propose topics! I'm not sure whether I will be present myself this time... Might be engaged in some Deskop Summit socialising :-) -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-08-03

2011-08-01 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Reminder: we meet as usual on Wednesday 19:00 UTC on irc.freenode.net, channel #hurd, to discuss all kinds of Hurd-related stuff. Hope to see you all there :-) -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-07-27

2011-07-26 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Another Wednesday is here -- which means we are having our weekly meeting, as usual at 19:00 UTC on #hurd (irc.freenode.net). Everyone is welcome to join and/or propose topics :-) -antrik-

[PATCH] utils/vmstat: Be less aggressive about switching to bigger units

2011-07-24 Thread olafBuddenhagen
From 69bcde9dc1f2b4450122f87072cc1e3c471e5f26 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Olaf Buddenhagen ant...@users.sourceforge.net Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:13:05 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] utils/vmstat: Be less aggressive about switching to bigger units Instead of switching to the next bigger unit as soon

IRC meeting 2011-07-20

2011-07-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, A somewhat late reminder for the usual IRC meeting, like each Wednesday 19:00 UTC on #hurd (irc.freenode.net). Apart from the usual GSoC stuff, probably we will be (further) discussing a response to some of the misunderstadings that came up in the recent press coverage... Feel free to

IRC meeting 2011-07-13

2011-07-12 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Another week has (almost) passed, and we are meeting as usual on Wednesday at 19:00 UTC on #hurd (irc.freenode.net). As always everyone is invited to come and also to propose discussion topics :-) -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-07-06

2011-07-05 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Usual reminder for usual meeting: Wednesday 19:00 UTC, #hurd on irc.freenode.net . Also, usual invitation for everyone to participate and/or to propose topics :-) -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-06-29

2011-06-27 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Just a reminder that we have our usual meeting in #hurd on irc.freenode.net, like every Wednesday at 19:00 UTC. (Even when I forget to announce it, as I did last week ;-) ) As always, everyone is welcome to join, and/or to propose discussion topics :-) -antrik-

Re: chroot sockets

2011-06-26 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 03:46:00AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: olafbuddenha...@gmx.net, le Fri 17 Jun 2011 23:19:15 +0200, a écrit : On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 10:40:03AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: olafbuddenha...@gmx.net, le Thu 02 Jun 2011 04:13:34 +0200, a écrit : Err...

Re: chroot sockets

2011-06-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 08:49:02PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Cheroot isn't supposed to change the namespace of Unix domain sockets in the case where the chroot shares a file with the main system. OK, that makes sense... I wonder though whether that's relevant in the use case at

Re: chroot sockets

2011-06-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 10:40:03AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: olafbuddenha...@gmx.net, le Thu 02 Jun 2011 04:13:34 +0200, a écrit : Err... What's the use of sharing the pipe server between chroot and main system? So that named pipes can actually work. Why wouldn't they work if

IRC meeting 2011-06-15

2011-06-13 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Meeting as usual on Wednesday 19:00 UTC on #hurd (irc.freenode.net). I hope I'll be able to attend myself again this time... As always, everyone is invited to come and/or to propose discussion topics :-) -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-06-08

2011-06-06 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, The usual reminder for the usual meeting on Wednesday at 19:00 UTC on irc.freenote.net #hurd. As usual everyone is invited, and as usual we welcome suggestions for topics to discuss :-) -antrik-

Re: CD set

2011-06-04 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 05:32:40PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: I've only built the 3 first CDs and the first DVD of the lengthy series of 42 CDs. I don't know if there's real use for the whole series. I don't know whether I can afford hosting them on people, we'd have to ask for

Re: Kernel newbie involvement

2011-06-04 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:11:05PM -0500, Quiliro Ordóñez wrote: I would like to involve a CS students in this project. Great :-) We are always happy about new people getting involved in the project. The idea is to use gNewSense (which is the FSF approved version based on Debian). I'm

chroot sockets (was: Introducing the hardening-wrapper package)

2011-06-02 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 09:35:32AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: You just need another partition, run debootstrap in it, and chroot into it. You'll need to firmlink servers/socket/{1,2} from the root to get named pipes and network sockets working. Err... What's the use of sharing the

IRC meeting 2011-06-01

2011-05-31 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, As nobody followed up on the last inquiry, we are sticking with Wednesday 19:00 UTC for our weekly IRC meeting. (#hurd on irc.freenode.net as usual.) I guess we will be talking about the usual GSoC stuff. Feel free to propose other topics we should discuss :-) -antrik-

Re: IRC meeting 2011-05-25 (Wednesday!)

2011-05-31 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 08:46:50PM -0500, Oz wrote: do you all ever hold meetings on saturdays? From previous discussions, we know that most people would prefer not to do IRC meetings on weekends. People generally prefer doing all kinds of other stuff on weekends, which they can't do

help-hurd (was: Hurd development)

2011-05-26 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 09:48:09PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: bug-hurd@gnu.org or help-h...@gnu.org are suitable lists for such questions. help-hurd? Seriously? Didn't we decide to kill that one like two years ago?... -antrik-

Re: user-level drivers

2011-05-26 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 12:07:16AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: I've started having a look at Zheng Da's user-level driver integration. I've cleaned his tree a bit, and now considering adding patches to the debian packages for wider testing. Great :-) The ArchHurd folks have been on it

Re: user-level drivers

2011-05-26 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 11:15:15AM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: On Mon, 9 May 2011 00:07:16 +0200, Samuel Thibault samuel.thiba...@gnu.org wrote: /* Requesting IRQ events on a port */ routine device_intr_notify( master_port : mach_port_t; in irq

Re: [scdbac...@gmx.net: Interface for SCSI transactions ?]

2011-05-22 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 03:35:45PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: you still need a way to access the actual burner... I don't really know, but I rather doubt that any VM solution actually exposes the host system's burner to the guest system as an ATAPI

Re: forwarded proposal to finance some hurd work

2011-05-22 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:54:27PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: On Tue, 17 May 2011 21:19:57 +0200, Tanguy LE CARROUR tanguy.lecarr...@gmail.com wrote: let me know if you have a top 5 list of simple things that have to be done. Simple things... What's that? ;-) I'll try to think

IRC meeting 2011-05-25 (Wednesday!)

2011-05-22 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, As Tuesday turned out problematic for many of the main contributors, we will meet Wednesday instead this week. (At 19:00 UTC on irc.freenode.net #hurd as usual.) This is still not ideal for everyone; so it might change again. Monday was proposed, as well as changing the time. (Two hours

Re: Would like to work on Hurdish TCP/IP stack gsoc project

2011-05-17 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:38:53AM -0400, Da Zheng wrote: If I remember correctly, one goal of this project is to port the TCP/IP stack from another OS such as BSD because we want to get rid of Linux code in Hurd. Well, we were more thinking about one of the existing userspace TCP/IP

Re: [scdbac...@gmx.net: Interface for SCSI transactions ?]

2011-05-17 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 09:05:40AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: The test machine is a 4x 64 bit AMD with ethernet on mainboard. From /var/log/messages of Debian 5: r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.2LK-NAPI loaded eth0: RTL8168c/8111c at 0xc263, [...] If the network

Re: forwarded proposal to finance some hurd work

2011-05-17 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 09:07:31PM +0200, Tanguy LE CARROUR wrote: what exactly is a community and outreach manager?! Basically, someone who takes care of all the non-development tasks that need to be done, but usually are not adequately handled through volunteer work alone: making sure

Re: [scdbac...@gmx.net: Interface for SCSI transactions ?]

2011-05-17 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 12:57:21PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: An interested user who really wants to burn CD, DVD, or BD, would be an extra motivation. :)) Well, if I can find some working DVD drive for my Linux box, I could transfer the burner to the Hurd box :-) However, I hardly do

IRC meeting 2011-05-17

2011-05-17 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, It's Tuesday again (I almost forgot it after the eventful LinuxTag week...), which means we are meeting as usual on the #hurd IRC channel (irc.freenode.net) at 19:00 UTC. See you there, and feel free to propose discussion topics :-) -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-05-10

2011-05-10 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Just a quick reminder for the IRC meeting on Tuesday 19:00, as usual irc.freenode.net channel #hurd. Tell us if there is anything you want to discuss! :-) -antrik-

Re: [PATCH 0 of 3] Making PyHurd build again under cython 0.14.1.

2011-05-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:40:39PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: At Fri, 8 Apr 2011 21:05:55 +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: It is quite rough (copied a file from cython, needs to be included cleanly). What would included cleanly mean? And why is it necessary? The

Re: forwarded proposal to finance some hurd work

2011-05-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:33:24PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: For the GSoC, we got more good applications than we can accept (which is obviously limited by Google). My idea is that we could perhaps use the money Tanguy is offering for paying another GSoC project on our own? It's

Re: [scdbac...@gmx.net: Interface for SCSI transactions ?]

2011-05-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:41:23PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: I meanwhile downloaded machuse.ps which drives my gv to the edge of madness. It starts at page 20 and i can only go backwards page by page. Probably i should make 20 screenshots for reading them in sequence. You could try

Re: [scdbac...@gmx.net: Interface for SCSI transactions ?]

2011-05-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 08:42:53PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: So i would rather propose a new function with the semantics of SG_IO: A completely hurdish interface for this would probably be the best, yes. [...] I understand the recent statements about the reason behind Hurd in

IRC meeting 2011-05-03

2011-05-01 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Just a reminder for the weekly IRC meeting on Tuesday, 19:00 UTC on #hurd (irc.freenode.net). Please propose topics to discuss so we can put them on the agenda :-) -antrik-

Re: IRC meeting 2011-04-19

2011-04-26 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 04:23:33PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: PS: 19 UTC would be 21 German Summertime, right? Right. -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-04-26

2011-04-26 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Did another week pass already? Well, it seems so... Which means the weekly meeting starts in a couple of hours -- at 19:00 UTC on #hurd (freenode.net) as usual. Suggestions for discussion topics are welcome, as well as random questions :-) -antrik-

IRC meeting 2011-04-19

2011-04-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, Sorry this is a bit late this time... As always, we are meeting today (Tuesday) at 19:00 UTC on freenode.net, channel #hurd, to discuss Hurd-related topics in real time. If there is anything you want to talk about, please speak up, so we can add it to the agenda :-) -antrik-

Re: Helping with GNU Hurd development

2011-04-16 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:00:11PM +0200, Pavel Ka??er wrote: Though I am not a kernel developer I am a skilful programmer and I think I might get into it quickly. My problem is I do not have much time now. But I will have more time later (two or three months perhaps). So maybe to start

Re: [scdbac...@gmx.net: Interface for SCSI transactions ?]

2011-04-12 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:32:10PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: olafbuddenha...@gmx.net, le Sun 10 Apr 2011 06:43:04 +0200, a écrit : i would like to check out whether there is documentation or an interested tutor for the tasks of listing all MMC drives, getting (exclusive) access to

Re: [PATCH 1 of 3] switch license to GPLv3 so we can include files under Apache 2.0. For details, see: http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html

2011-04-12 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:09:36PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: At Fri, 8 Apr 2011 21:11:01 +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: every source file should state the license in the header... It should suffice to state the project license. The source files are GPLv2 or later, so

Re: flubber crash

2011-04-12 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 09:24:49PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: Folks, if anyone has been doing anything specific at the time the crash happened, don't hesitate to speak up! We're intereted in reproducing / fixing this. Well, I did a git pull, and when I tried another pull some hours

[scdbac...@gmx.net: Interface for SCSI transactions ?]

2011-04-10 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Forwarding to appropriate list... - Forwarded message from Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net - Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 16:17:13 +0200 From: Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net To: help-h...@gnu.org Subject: Interface for SCSI transactions ? Hi, i would like to explore the possibilities to

IRC meeting 2011-04-12

2011-04-10 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, This is a reminder about the IRC meeting this Tuesday, 19:00 UTC. I hope to see the GSoC applications and potential mentors, so we can talk about the applications. If you can think of anything else we should discuss this week, please speak up, and we will add it to the agenda :-) -antrik-

More Mentors!

2011-04-10 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, We have quite a lot of proposals this year that look pretty promising so far. We don't know yet of course which we ultimately want to go with (and even if we did, we wouldn't be allowed to tell ;-) ) -- but if we get enough slots, we might want to take up most of them. However, I'd like to

Re: GSoC: PATH_MAX

2011-04-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 11:40:56PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: I thought free(NULL) wasn't safe and led to crashes, but you're right according to free(3). It's amazing how many programmers are not aware of that :-) It's one of the most frequent things I tend to point out in

Re: [PATCH 0 of 3] Making PyHurd build again under cython 0.14.1.

2011-04-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 04:21:25AM +0200, arne_...@web.de wrote: This patch makes pyhurd build again under cython 0.14.1. OK. I'm not sure why you Cc:ed it to me though... I don't even speak Python :-) You should rather Cc: it to Anatoly, who will (hopefully) be your mentor... It is

Re: GSoC: PATH_MAX

2011-04-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hallo, On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:24:25AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: In that particular case, libsepol, the package is actually expected to be used on Linux only, so it's probably fine. Now, since it's actually Linux-only, it's probably also not really useful to port this one... Well, if

Re: [PATCH 1 of 3] switch license to GPLv3 so we can include files under Apache 2.0. For details, see: http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html

2011-04-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 04:21:26AM +0200, arne_...@web.de wrote: switch license to GPLv3 so we can include files under Apache 2.0. For details, see: http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html That's way to long for a Patch title. Move the second sentence to the body of the

Re: GSoC: PATH_MAX

2011-04-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 12:31:57PM +0200, Patrik Olsson wrote: On 07/04/11 21:42, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: A general remark: not all plattforms have asprintf(). Depending on how portable the packages in question are, you might need to add configure-time checks and/or

Re: Gallium 3D infrastructure : KMS/TTM

2011-04-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 06:17:55PM +0300, marius adrian popa wrote: I have made my proposal to haikuos for the moment http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/mariuz/1 I don't know too much about the hurd internals (only about haiku, linux) In the porting for

Copyright (was: PATCH 1/2 - fix all compiler warnings.)

2011-04-07 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 09:58:42AM +0200, Manuel Menal wrote: + Copyright (C) 2002, 2005 HurdFR. + Written by Marc de Saint Sauveur m...@hurdfr.org + and Manuel Menal mme...@hurdfr.org Not really related to your patch -- but I wonder, did they really assign

Re: PATCH 2/2 - monitor backing store changes and update.

2011-04-07 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 06:26:15PM +0100, Michael Walker wrote: Missing Copyright/License header. Ok, I wasn't entirely sure what to put as the xmlfs code I started with had HurdFR stuff, so I decided to leave it until I learned what the copyright situation for the xmlfs code is.

Re: XMLFS for GSoC

2011-04-07 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 03:43:15PM +0100, Michael Walker wrote: I did originally just plan to do xmlfs, but then I realised that most of the nontrivial code in the xslt translator and in unxmlfs would be the same - the directory-tree-to-XML parser, which shouldn't really be too hard.

Re: PATCH 1/2 - fix all compiler warnings.

2011-04-07 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Michael Walker wrote: [...] and I think I will start using GCC/GNU stuff more (dropping -pedantic), Alternatively, I think you could use -std=gnu99 and keep -pedantic. At least that is my understanding -- never played with these things myself :-)

Re: GSoC: PATH_MAX

2011-04-07 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 07:02:14PM +0200, Patrik Olsson wrote: As a preparation exercise for GSoC, I have fixed the PATH_MAX issue in three Debian packages: nekobee, whysynth and libsepol. Great. From what I can see, these are all pretty simple cases -- but it's certainly a good start :-)

Re: XMLFS for GSoC

2011-04-07 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 01:46:02PM +0100, Michael Walker wrote: * Read support in unxmlfs unxmlfs takes an xmlfs-compatible directory tree and turns it into an XML file, thus reading will be done via libtrivfs, with no write support (I see no need/use for that). I do. The GSoC

Re: XMLFS for GSoC

2011-04-07 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 09:09:35PM +0100, Michael Walker wrote: I don't think the XSLT translator should present a directory tree as output. Nothing in XSLT requires the output to be XML. Aha, I had a feeling I was misunderstanding something somewhere. In that case, xslt would be

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