Add info-lilypond list to documentation page

2004-03-29 Thread Reuben Thomas
(with all the other lists) ___ Bug-lilypond mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond

lilypond-mode bug with workaround (fix probably easy too)

2004-03-19 Thread Reuben Thomas
On a long file, LilyPond-mode keeps spuriously narrowing. I tracked this down to line 502 of lilypond-indent.el: the paren-matching code calls narrow-to-region, but never calls widen again. I'm afraid my Elisp and current attention span (I'm not using LilyPond at the moment) isn't up to working ou

Problem with installing info files in 2.1.29

2004-03-11 Thread Reuben Thomas
While installing the 2.1.29 RPMs I get the errors: install-info: No such file or directory for /usr/share/info/lilypond.info.gz install-info: No such file or directory for /usr/share/info/music-glossary.info.gz which is unsurprising as these files are stored in a /usr/share/info/lilypond (is this

Extra page in DVI output

2004-03-06 Thread Reuben Thomas
I just persuaded LilyPond to produce an extra blank page at the end of the DVI output. It had already placed the "Engraved by LilyPond" footer at the bottom of the previous page. I'm not sure how to get a minimal example; I can send the file I used by private email if that's useful. -- http://ww

Many manual pictures still missing from RPM for 2.1.28

2004-03-01 Thread Reuben Thomas
For example, the image corresponding to file://localhost/usr/share/doc/lilypond/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/lily-758351006.ly ___ Bug-lilypond mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond

Re: Real user now!

2004-03-01 Thread Reuben Thomas
> I've added a link, but ehmmm.., the wiki FAQ is misnamed. For example, > you are the first to bring up the "kick-xdvi" thing; it surely doesn't > count as a "Frequently" asked question? You're right. It wasn't obvious where to put the tip. -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | golf, n. a good wal

Re: Real user now!

2004-03-01 Thread Reuben Thomas
> > Finally, a tip you may want to include in the FAQ or Wiki: I started > > (The whole point of a wiki is that you add it yourself.) Now done. A few things: 1. Is there any way of stopping the MoinMoin docs from being indexed by site searches? This gets in the way of searches for LilyPond conten

Pointless repetition in manual

2004-02-24 Thread Reuben Thomas
"For Lyrics, Lyrics, ChordNames and FiguredBass," Presumably you only want to mention Lyrics once (was one of the mentions supposed to be something else?). -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | Travail broadens the behind ___ Bug-lilypond mailing list [E

Oddity with \( indentation in LilyPond-mode: update

2004-02-24 Thread Reuben Thomas
It seems that \( causes indentation on the next line up to the \(, which suggests that Scheme style indentation is kicking in when it shouldn't be. -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ author, n. one who parades ignorance in public ___ Bug-lilypond mailin

Oddity with \( indentation in LilyPond-mode

2004-02-24 Thread Reuben Thomas
Something I don't really understand: although the only indent setting I have that is non-zero is LilyPond-indent, when I have a construct like c2\( \cresc b4 a \endcresc a( gs8 fs gs2) | a1\) r1 | LilyPond-mode insists on indenting it as shown. If I remove the \( on the f

Lack of clarity over mensural time signatures

2004-02-24 Thread Reuben Thomas
In the manual, under "Ancient time signatures" it says "Some glyphs (such as the alternate glyph for 6/8 meter) are not at all accessible through the \time command." In the table above, a glyph is shown above the command "\time 6/8". AFAICS, no other 6/8 glyph is mentioned in the manual. Are ther

Re: A couple of problems in lyrics handling (in 2.1.26)

2004-02-24 Thread Reuben Thomas
> > 1. (Bug) If you have a -- and there are no more notes, LilyPond segfaults. > > > > 2. (More of a suggestion) If you have a __ on the last note of the piece, > > LilyPond gives an error. It could perhaps give a warning, but shouldn't > > give an error. > > Please send .ly examples. I attach two

A couple of problems in lyrics handling (in 2.1.26)

2004-02-23 Thread Reuben Thomas
1. (Bug) If you have a -- and there are no more notes, LilyPond segfaults. 2. (More of a suggestion) If you have a __ on the last note of the piece, LilyPond gives an error. It could perhaps give a warning, but shouldn't give an error. -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ canonize, v. to sanctify a

Manual error: "lazyness" should be "laziness"

2004-02-23 Thread Reuben Thomas
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postun removal of ls-R should be preun

2004-02-23 Thread Reuben Thomas
Otherwise the uninstall won't also remove the 2.1.xx directory (as the directory won't be empty until after the postun script). -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | fantasize, a. as big as fizzy orange ___ Bug-lilypond mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] htt

RPM installing too many info-dir entries?

2004-02-23 Thread Reuben Thomas
Does the RPM try to install something twice in the info dir? I get (with 2.1.26, when upgrading from 2.1.25, and the same from 2.1.24->2.1.25): install-info: menu item `Glossary' already exists (music-glossary) (or something very like that). And indeed Glossary appears twice, once under "Miscella

Re: /etc/profile.d/lilypond.sh is a bad idea

2004-02-23 Thread Reuben Thomas
> I would advise mimicking the debian approach, installing under TEXMF > using symlinks, see debian/rules. Even better yet, have make install > do this if it finds tetex, and move it out of specific distribution > scripts. That sounds good. -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | art, n. romanticize

Re: /etc/profile.d/lilypond.sh is a bad idea

2004-02-23 Thread Reuben Thomas
> I welcome all proposals for better solutions, Doing what Jan suggested, at least in the RPM, seems to be a good way of sorting things out, at least for RPM-ed systems. After all, it's reasonable to have only one version of lilypond installed as an RPM. If people want multiple versions installed

Re: /etc/profile.d/lilypond.sh is a bad idea

2004-02-23 Thread Reuben Thomas
> Yes, and separate scripts for xdvi, dvips, kdvi, gdvi, texi2dvi? I > don't think that this is a good approach. Need it be scripts? Can't you just make a system call with the TEXMF shell variable prepended, i.e. TEXMF=blah > We explicitly put the version number in, to prevent lilypond from >

lilypond-mode.el

2004-02-23 Thread Reuben Thomas
I'm using what I think is the current version (shipped with LilyPond 2.1.25) and I'm having a few problems: 1. Much of my file keeps being coloured like a string. This happens when I have a construction such as words = \lyrics { ... } and then later \lyricsto "voice" \new Lyrics \words After t

Re: Is \paper{} needed?

2004-02-23 Thread Reuben Thomas
> If you neither have a \midi or a \paper, LilyPond will > assume that you just want paper output. However, as soon > as you have a \midi block, LilyPond will only output MIDI > unless you also have a \paper block. OK, so maybe that should go in the manual. -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | medi

Is \paper{} needed?

2004-02-22 Thread Reuben Thomas
The manual says that \paper{} is required and several examples have an empty \paper{}, but this doesn't seem (from experience) to be true in 2.1.25 any more. Is this the manual being out of date, or LilyPond being over-lenient? -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ sad, a. the efforts of musical debut

"Cross thumbs"

2004-02-22 Thread Reuben Thomas
I think in English this rather endearing TeX-style warning message should be "Cross fingers". -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | maximiste, n. pessimiste (Roux) ___ Bug-lilypond mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-l

Unable to customize LilyPond variables

2004-02-22 Thread Reuben Thomas
I'm not sure who's currently responsible for lilypond-indent.el, so I'm sending this to the list and to Heikki, who seems to be the main author. Variables such as LilyPond-indent-level claim to be customizable, but aren't, because they don't have group and type information: (defcustom LilyPond-in

RPM postun script should rm ls-R file

2004-02-22 Thread Reuben Thomas
I just noticed that when I upgraded from 2.1.24 to 2.1.25 then ls-R file (made by mktexlsr) wasn't removed. Presumably it's expected to be created, so should be removed by the postun script so that the old 2.1.24 directory under /usr/share/lilypond is properly removed. -- http://www.mupsych.org/~

Re: Default "engraved by" message shouldn't contain a comma

2004-02-22 Thread Reuben Thomas
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > because it looks like a date. Could you make it "Engraved by LilyPond > > version x.y.z"? > > That's ok? Or how about: Engraved by LilyPond (v2.1.92). I think spelling out "v" as "version" is better, because it makes it easier for non-technical readers to understan

Manual improvement

2004-02-22 Thread Reuben Thomas
"Absolute dynamic marks are specified using an variable after a note" How about "Absolute dynamic marks are specified using a command after a note"? -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | historian, n. a broad-gauge gossip (Bierce) ___ Bug-lilypond maili

Strange English in the manual

2004-02-22 Thread Reuben Thomas
"If a staff is ended halfway a piece," Am I just being stupid, or is this a bit weird? -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | resident, a. unable to leave (Bierce) ___ Bug-lilypond mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-l

Typo in manual example

2004-02-22 Thread Reuben Thomas
In the following example code \context ChoirStaff \notes << \context Lyrics = sopranoLyrics { s1 } \context Voice = soprano { music } \context Lyrics = tenor { s1 } \context Voice = tenorLyrics { music } >> I presume that "tenor" should be swapped with "tenorLyri

HTML rendering of manual is a bit confusing

2004-02-22 Thread Reuben Thomas
I notice that subsection headings are rendered as h4, whereas "headings", which should be smaller, are h3. This makes the manual a little hard to read as a web page. -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | The only person worth beating is yourself ___ Bug-l

Default "engraved by" message shouldn't contain a comma

2004-02-21 Thread Reuben Thomas
because it looks like a date. Could you make it "Engraved by LilyPond version x.y.z"? -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | plagiarism, n. the mind burgles ___ Bug-lilypond mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond

Manual typo

2004-02-21 Thread Reuben Thomas
"monstruous" -> "monstrous" -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | wisdom, n. knowing when to be foolish ___ Bug-lilypond mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond

/etc/profile.d/lilypond.sh is a bad idea

2004-02-21 Thread Reuben Thomas
I just ran into trouble, because I upgraded my tetex installation in the middle of a session, and the new installation had different paths. Since TEXMF was set as an environment variable by lilypond, when I tried to run latex afterwards it didn't have the right paths. I suggest that lilypond shou

PNGs missing from lilypond-documentation-2.1.25 RPM

2004-02-21 Thread Reuben Thomas
Some of the PNGs are missing from the docs RPM, e.g. lily-918677483.png. -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ | impossible, a. worth doing ___ Bug-lilypond mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond

Broken links on web site

2004-02-19 Thread Reuben Thomas
The PNG links in http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.1/input/regression/out-www/collated-files.html all seem to be broken. -- http://www.mupsych.org/~rrt/ sad, a. the efforts of musical debutantes (Bierce) ___ Bug-lilypond mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] htt

Re: Real user now!

2004-02-19 Thread Reuben Thomas
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I'm now using Lilypond. I just installed 2.1.25, and noticed a couple of > > small things: > > > > 1. The lilypond-documentation Fedora Linux RPM installs docs in > > /usr/share/doc/lilypond. Strictly it should be in > >

Real user now!

2004-02-18 Thread Reuben Thomas
I'm now using Lilypond. I just installed 2.1.25, and noticed a couple of small things: 1. The lilypond-documentation Fedora Linux RPM installs docs in /usr/share/doc/lilypond. Strictly it should be in /usr/share/doc/lilypond-documentation-2.1.25 (i.e. with the same name as the RPM and with the ver

Re: Bug in /etc/profile.d/lilypond.sh (with fix!)

2003-12-04 Thread Reuben Thomas
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Reuben Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> But only if you start a second login shell, and you shouldn't be doing that. > > > > Sadly I don't have to do that. RedHat in their infinite wisdom run

Re: Bug in /etc/profile.d/lilypond.sh (with fix!)

2003-12-03 Thread Reuben Thomas
> But only if you start a second login shell, and you shouldn't be doing that. Sadly I don't have to do that. RedHat in their infinite wisdom run the scripts in /etc/profile.d from /etc/bashrc if they haven't already been run by /etc/profile. I presume they have at least a plausible reason, since

Re: Bug in /etc/profile.d/lilypond.sh (with fix!)

2003-12-03 Thread Reuben Thomas
> With your patch, the script will not work for people who already > have the TEXMF variable set for other reasons. It will and it does! That's the whole point of the patch. When my code is run in a shell that already has TEXMF set, it checks whether the Lilypond path is in it, and only adds it if

Bug in /etc/profile.d/lilypond.sh (with fix!)

2003-12-02 Thread Reuben Thomas
The Lilypond RPM contains the following stanza: # Add the installation directory to the teTeX system tree, # see Documentation/misc/fontinstallation TEXMF="{$datadir,"`kpsexpand \\$TEXMF`"}" export TEXMF This isn't quite right, as every time you start a shell insi

Re: More comments on the web site

2003-11-29 Thread Reuben Thomas
> > If you're going (correctly) to say that much computer-produced music > > looks bland and has typographical mistakes, it's also worth pointing > > out the exceptions. > > I am not aware of such exceptions yet. You need an experienced > engraver to to correct the pathetic mistakes that music pri

More comments on the web site

2003-11-29 Thread Reuben Thomas
The FAQ looks ugly in my browser (Opera 7.23 for Linux). This is, AFAICS, because of mismatched header tags, e.g. Frequently asked questions There are a couple of instances of this on the page; the next one is at How can I thank you for LilyPond? Also the FAQ isn't linked to from the Documentat

Treatise on automated typesetting of music

2003-11-28 Thread Reuben Thomas
I've looked at Lilypond several times over the years, but (perhaps because of an early and rather painful experience with MusicTeX in about 1994) I have never tried using it. I have for the last ten years or so used Sibelius, first on Acorn machines and now on Windows, but the cost (I've spent more