Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-02 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
Looking at the Ubuntu/Launchpad bug list for Lilypond makes me wonder -- is there any mechanism in place to ensure Lilypond developers receive bug reports placed in distros' bugtrackers? If not, perhaps it's worth subscribing bugs-lilypond to trackers for the major distros (Debian, Ubuntu, Fed

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > perhaps it's worth subscribing bugs-lilypond to trackers for the major > distros (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) so that the development team at least > gets alerted to the issues out there? sounds like +1 Janek

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-02 Thread Colin Hall
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 10:45:30PM +0200, Janek Warcho wrote: > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling > wrote: > > perhaps it's worth subscribing bugs-lilypond to trackers for the major > > distros (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) so that the development team at least > > gets aler

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Colin Hall wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling > wrote: > > perhaps it's worth subscribing bugs-lilypond to trackers for the major > > distros (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) so that the development team at least > > gets alerted to t

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-02 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/02/2012 11:51 PM, Colin Hall wrote: bugs-lilypond is for receiving reports against the code we release. Can you suggest a viable alternative to ensure that the development team receive notice of downstream bug reports? ___ bug-lilypond maili

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 06:18:34PM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > Looking at the Ubuntu/Launchpad bug list for Lilypond makes me > wonder -- is there any mechanism in place to ensure Lilypond > developers receive bug reports placed in distros' bugtrackers? No. > If not, perhaps it's wort

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-02 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Graham Percival wrote: If not, perhaps it's worth subscribing bugs-lilypond to trackers for the major distros (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) so that the development team at least gets alerted to the issues out there? Those distros can come talk to us if they want to send

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-03 Thread David Kastrup
Martin Tarenskeen writes: > On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Graham Percival wrote: > >>> If not, perhaps it's worth subscribing bugs-lilypond to trackers for >>> the major distros (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) so that the >>> development team at least gets alerted to the issues out there? >> >> Those distro

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-03 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/03/2012 06:04 AM, Graham Percival wrote: Those distros can come talk to us if they want to send good bug reports to the proper place. I don't understand why you'd take that attitude. It's trivial to listen in on bug reports from a few key distros, the total volume is unlikely to be a p

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-03 Thread Marek Klein
Hello Joseph, 2012/10/3 Joseph Rushton Wakeling > I don't understand why you'd take that attitude. It's trivial to listen > in on bug reports from a few key distros, the total volume is unlikely to > be a problem, and it improves the chances that users' and distros' problems > with the software

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 06:47:41PM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 10/03/2012 06:04 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > >Those distros can come talk to us if they want to send good bug > >reports to the proper place. > > I don't understand why you'd take that attitude. It's trivial to > liste

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-03 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/03/2012 07:17 PM, Marek Klein wrote: Is it really trivial? I can not imagine, how would you do it. A bug squad member is supposed to spend 20 minutes a weak with his duties (bug reports, verifying...). Maybe it seems to you to be to little, but even though there is not enough people willing

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-03 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/03/2012 07:49 PM, Graham Percival wrote: I don't understand why you'd take that attitude. It's trivial for distribution package maintainers to send good bug reports upstream, the total volume is unlikely to be a problem, and it improves the chances that users' and distros' problems with th

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 09:53:40PM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > OTOH if bug-lilypond is signed up to receive reports from a few key > distros, you get those notices automatically without anyone having > to put in any extra effort. We are not going to sign up bug-lilypond to receive noti

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 09:53:40PM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: >> OTOH if bug-lilypond is signed up to receive reports from a few key >> distros, you get those notices automatically without anyone having >> to put in any extra eff

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-03 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/03/2012 10:36 PM, Graham Percival wrote: We are not going to sign up bug-lilypond to receive notices automatically. Most reports will not be useful, and they will screw up the automatic tools we use to keep track of whether reports have been dealt with or not. It doesn't have to be bug-l

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 11:56:37PM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 10/03/2012 10:36 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > >We are not going to sign up bug-lilypond to receive notices > >automatically. Most reports will not be useful, and they will > >screw up the automatic tools we use to keep t

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-04 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/04/2012 01:32 AM, Graham Percival wrote: ok, so you won't mind volunteering to take care of this with your personal email account. Look, the whole point of what I was suggesting was this: that it would be useful for the Lilypond team to be _automatically_ notified when a downstream bug g

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 07:17:05PM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 10/04/2012 01:32 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > >ok, so you won't mind volunteering to take care of this with your > >personal email account. > > Look, the whole point of what I was suggesting was this: that it > would be

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-06 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/05/2012 12:02 AM, Graham Percival wrote: That's your opinion. My opinion is that it would *not* be useful to receive automatic notifications, since most automatic notifications from distro bugs are useless for us. Fair enough. I'm sorry if my earlier emails came across as dismissive of

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-07 Thread Colin Hall
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 11:31:42PM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 10/05/2012 12:02 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > >That's your opinion. My opinion is that it would *not* be useful > >to receive automatic notifications, since most automatic > >notifications from distro bugs are useless fo

Re: Lilypond and distribution bugtrackers [was: LSR is not at the stable release level]

2012-10-13 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 11:56:37PM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: >> On 10/03/2012 10:36 PM, Graham Percival wrote: >> >We are not going to sign up bug-lilypond to receive notices >> >automatically. Most reports will not be useful, and they will >> >screw up the