Re: Limitation with beat grouping

2009-03-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty Monday, March 23, 2009 11:07 PM On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Cameron Horsburgh ca...@netcall.com.au wrote: I've also just noticed another thing: the figure a8 a16 a16 a8 a16 a6 is rendered a8[ a16 a16] a8[ a16 a6] which is my preferred option. In fact, I would prefer

Re: Limitation with beat grouping

2009-03-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Cameron Horsburgh wrote Monday, March 23, 2009 12:54 AM I've had a problem with some auto beaming, and after some discussion on -user[1] I believe it's a limitation with LilyPond's autobeaming mechanism. Here's my problem: I am setting a piece in 4/4 that has many examples of the figure

Re: Limitation with beat grouping

2009-03-23 Thread Hans Aberg
On 23 Mar 2009, at 01:54, Cameron Horsburgh wrote: I've had a problem with some auto beaming, and after some discussion on -user[1] I believe it's a limitation with LilyPond's autobeaming mechanism. Here's my problem: I am setting a piece in 4/4 that has many examples of the figure a8 a a

Re: Limitation with beat grouping

2009-03-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hans Aberg wrote Monday, March 23, 2009 8:47 AM On 23 Mar 2009, at 01:54, Cameron Horsburgh wrote: I've had a problem with some auto beaming, and after some discussion on -user[1] I believe it's a limitation with LilyPond's autobeaming mechanism. Here's my problem: I am setting a piece

Re: Limitation with beat grouping

2009-03-23 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:47:22AM +0100, Hans Aberg wrote: On 23 Mar 2009, at 01:54, Cameron Horsburgh wrote: Second, the autobeaming mechanism should allow this sort of construct. The problem is that the beaming between the second and third notes depends on the length of the fourth and

Re: Limitation with beat grouping

2009-03-23 Thread Hans Aberg
On 23 Mar 2009, at 09:26, Trevor Daniels wrote: Just to clarify, the problem is to automatically beam the pattern with 16th as a[8 a] a[ a16 a] while _also_ beaming four 8ths as a8[ a a a]. That is, to end the 8th beam after two notes if later on it runs into 16th but to continue otherwise.

Re: Limitation with beat grouping

2009-03-23 Thread Hans Aberg
On 23 Mar 2009, at 11:50, Cameron Horsburgh wrote: The problem, as I see it, is tied to the metric interpretation of 4/4, which is ambiguous: it can be taken as a strong beat (metric accent) on 1 followed by weaker on 2, 3 and 4. Alternatively, 3 can be accented more than 2 and 4, but

Re: Limitation with beat grouping

2009-03-23 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 02:56:48PM +0100, Hans Aberg wrote: On 23 Mar 2009, at 11:50, Cameron Horsburgh wrote: The problem, as I see it, is tied to the metric interpretation of 4/4, which is ambiguous: it can be taken as a strong beat (metric accent) on 1 followed by weaker on 2, 3 and

Re: Limitation with beat grouping

2009-03-23 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Cameron Horsburgh ca...@netcall.com.au wrote: I've also just noticed another thing: the figure  a8 a16 a16 a8 a16 a6 is rendered  a8[ a16 a16] a8[ a16 a6] which is my preferred option. In fact, I would prefer everything to be broken to one beat groups

Limitation with beat grouping

2009-03-22 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
Hi folks, I've had a problem with some auto beaming, and after some discussion on -user[1] I believe it's a limitation with LilyPond's autobeaming mechanism. Here's my problem: I am setting a piece in 4/4 that has many examples of the figure a8 a a a16 a beginning on either the first or