Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-17 Thread Marek Klein
Hello, 2013/4/9 Evan Laforge > > When note heads cross to the upper staff, they should cause the upper > notes to flip stem directions to avoid collision. > Thank you for the report, this has been added as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3324 Marek bug squad member __

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/10 Evan Laforge : > This is not my error, it's lilypond's error. Additionally, the point > is not that it's possible to manually fix the problem. It's possible > to manually fix all placement problems. > > If the problem is that it's too hard to figure out stem direction > automatically, t

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> If you don't like the word "bug", perhaps we can agree to call it an > "opportunity for improvement." I don't mind changing words if it > helps us stop getting distracted by other software :) We call such things a `feature request', and there are plenty of them already in the tracker. We

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-10 Thread Evan Laforge
> I didn't say it was a hard to fix bug, I said it wasn't a bug and > illustrated what another expensive product does, as an illustration of > standard notation software layout practice. Well, Sibelius makes you fix many things manually. That's something that makes Sibelius more time-consuming to

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Evan Laforge" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:15 PM Subject: Re: cross staff notes collide On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: "Evan Laforge" wrote in message news:CACbaDy6QRYvn_nQrp

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-09 Thread Evan Laforge
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: > "Evan Laforge" wrote in message > news:CACbaDy6QRYvn_nQrpOVj72wwogDiA=-sdz2qct3niozkm_t...@mail.gmail.com... > It's not automatic - you have control. Try using voices, and > checking the output for error messages: Right, it's

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/4/9 Evan Laforge : It's not automatic - you have control. Try using voices, and checking the output for error messages: >>> >>> Right, it's easy to fix manually, \stemUp works too. But that goes >>> for all collision / ugliness bugs. The ideal is that it automatically >>> fin

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > "Phil Holmes" wrote in message > news:kk1v6s$38q$1...@ger.gmane.org... >> "Evan Laforge" wrote in message >> news:CACbaDy6QRYvn_nQrpOVj72wwogDiA=-sdz2qct3niozkm_t...@mail.gmail.com... >> It's not automatic - you have control. Try using voices, and >> checking th

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-09 Thread Phil Holmes
"Phil Holmes" wrote in message news:kk1v6s$38q$1...@ger.gmane.org... "Evan Laforge" wrote in message news:CACbaDy6QRYvn_nQrpOVj72wwogDiA=-sdz2qct3niozkm_t...@mail.gmail.com... It's not automatic - you have control. Try using voices, and checking the output for error messages: Right, it's ea

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-09 Thread Phil Holmes
"Evan Laforge" wrote in message news:CACbaDy6QRYvn_nQrpOVj72wwogDiA=-sdz2qct3niozkm_t...@mail.gmail.com... It's not automatic - you have control. Try using voices, and checking the output for error messages: Right, it's easy to fix manually, \stemUp works too. But that goes for all collision

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-09 Thread Evan Laforge
>>> It's not automatic - you have control. Try using voices, and >>> checking the output for error messages: >> >> Right, it's easy to fix manually, \stemUp works too. But that goes >> for all collision / ugliness bugs. The ideal is that it automatically >> finds the prettiest possible way to la

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
Evan Laforge writes: >> It's not automatic - you have control. Try using voices, and >> checking the output for error messages: > > Right, it's easy to fix manually, \stemUp works too. But that goes > for all collision / ugliness bugs. The ideal is that it automatically > finds the prettiest p

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-09 Thread Evan Laforge
> It's not automatic - you have control. Try using voices, and checking the > output for error messages: Right, it's easy to fix manually, \stemUp works too. But that goes for all collision / ugliness bugs. The ideal is that it automatically finds the prettiest possible way to lay things out, y

Re: cross staff notes collide

2013-04-09 Thread Phil Holmes
m. It might be related to 721 "Dynamics can collide with notes when applied to cross-staff voices" if it's simply that cross staff notes collide with everything :) When note heads cross to the upper staff, they should cause the upper notes to flip stem directions to avoid collisi

cross staff notes collide

2013-04-09 Thread Evan Laforge
I looked at the issue tracker but couldn't find this one. I was going to go ahead and file a bug directly, but then it told me to bring it up here first, so here I am. It might be related to 721 "Dynamics can collide with notes when applied to cross-staff voices" if it's sim