Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-19 Thread Martin Straeten
i found further examples with less different rhythms Bach English Suite 1: http://erato.uvt.nl/files/imglnks/usimg/5/59/IMSLP63610-PMLP05770-Bach_Oeves_Complets_Peters_Liv_8_BWV_806-811_2783.pdf page 15, 5th system Bach English Suite 5:

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-19 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/19/12 6:07 AM, Martin Straeten martin.strae...@gmail.com wrote: Your idea regarding a no beamlet sticking out property seems to be a practicable solution; the workaround described in the issue is fine for the simple example, but is quite inconvenient in real life. The current patch on issue

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-19 Thread Janek Warchoł
W dniu 19 stycznia 2012 16:44 użytkownik Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu napisał: On 1/19/12 6:07 AM, Martin Straeten martin.strae...@gmail.com wrote: Your idea regarding a no beamlet sticking out property seems to be a practicable solution; the workaround described in the issue is fine for the

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/17/12 3:33 AM, Martin Straeten martin.strae...@gmail.com wrote: here two examples: BWV 544: http://216.129.110.22/files/imglnks/usimg/4/4a/IMSLP01329-BWV0544.pdf old Edition of Bach Gesellschaft This example shows examples of beaming the 3/8 unit it both two and three. In measures 3-6,

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/15/12 6:04 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: On 1/15/12 3:06 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/15 Martin Straeten martin.strae...@gmail.com: I'm not top posting. in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver points to the dotted quaver.

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/15/12 2:50 PM, Martin Straeten martin.strae...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not top posting. in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver points to the dotted quaver. semiquavers should be beamed together like in 2.14.2 %-sample-- \version 2.15.24 \score { \relative c'{

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/15/12 2:50 PM, Martin Straeten martin.strae...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not top posting. in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver points to the dotted quaver. semiquavers should be beamed together like in 2.14.2 %-sample-- \version 2.15.24 \score { \relative c'{

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Janek Warchoł
Carl, 2012/1/16 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: Having reviewed Gould on beaming, I don't believe that the 3/4 time measure in this example shows a valid problem. The rhythm in the 3/4 measure is an invalid measure.  The three beats in the measure are combined in such a way that the beats

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/16/12 3:41 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: Carl, Thanks for your research. I agree that there must be tied notes if one wants this melody to be in 3/4 meter. However, i'm not sure about 6/8. My pure reasoning is that a measure in 6/8 meter divides like this: 4. + 4.

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
After a thorough review of the literature, I'm pretty satisfied that the beaming in 2.14 was wrong. The beaming in 2.15.24 is correct. If the 2.14 beaming is desired, a workaround is shown on lilypond issue 2228: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2228 I've marked that issue

wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-15 Thread Martin Straeten
I'm not top posting. in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver points to the dotted quaver. semiquavers should be beamed together like in 2.14.2 %-sample-- \version 2.15.24 \score { \relative c'{ \time 6/8 c16 d e f8. c8. d16 e f \time 3/4

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-15 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/15 Martin Straeten martin.strae...@gmail.com: I'm not top posting. in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver points to the dotted quaver. semiquavers should be beamed together I may be wrong, but i don't agree. Beaming them together would be against the rhythmical

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-15 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/15/12 3:06 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/15 Martin Straeten martin.strae...@gmail.com: I'm not top posting. in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver points to the dotted quaver. semiquavers should be beamed together I may be wrong, but i