Re: make and backslash-newline's

2005-12-28 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
At this point I'm not considering backing out this change. First, GNU make absolutely _IS_ an implementation of POSIX standard for make: you only have to read as far as the second paragraph in the GNU make manual: > GNU make conforms to section 6.2 of IEEE Standard 1003.2-1992 >

Re: make and backslash-newline's

2005-12-28 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% "Alfred M\. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ams> Thanks for the detailed explanation, but the thing with the ams> backslash/newline stuff is that it breaks old Makefiles, and it ams> makes new Makefiles not work with old makes; it is also hard (and ams> might make it even more unrea

Re: make and backslash-newline's

2005-12-28 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
I still believe the change is localized and not widespread enough to justify supporting both behaviors... hopefully I'm not whistling past the graveyard. I don't know if I should take your word for it, or if I should compile lots of things (old and new) with the beta make and report what

Re: make and backslash-newline's

2005-12-28 Thread Dmitry V. Levin
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 01:51:50AM +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > I'll think about it some more maybe compile a bunch of stuff with the > make from alpha, still a bit pissed at the fool who added a beta make > to Debian since the old Makefile do make sense IMHO. I have some surprisingly good sta

Re: make and backslash-newline's

2005-12-28 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
I have some surprisingly good statistics. In ALT Linux Sisyphus (repository with 5000+ source packages) percentage of packages You have fallen for the trap that Linux is a operating system, which it is not; it is simply a kernel. The operating system you are actually refering to is an vari

Re: make and backslash-newline's

2005-12-28 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% "Alfred M\. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: pds> I still believe the change is localized and not widespread enough pds> to justify supporting both behaviors... hopefully I'm not pds> whistling past the graveyard. ams> I don't know if I should take your word for it, or if I should

Re: make and backslash-newline's

2005-12-28 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
It's not clear to me what the problem is with having a late beta of GNU make installed into Debian unstable. If these changes are going to be in the next release would it really have made much difference to wait for that? The problem is that you don't get the chance to read the NEWS f