Re: Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-29 Thread Tim Murphy
Let me add my voice as a user. If you are one of the lucky people whose builds consist mostly of 1 line of output per rule then you will rarely have any trouble in a good build but try interpreting error messages from compiler/tool X when they're 10 lines from the file that they refer to and

Re: Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:58:50 +0100 From: Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com Cc: bug-make@gnu.org bug-make@gnu.org try interpreting error messages from compiler/tool X when they're 10 lines from the file that they refer to and don't include the filename in the error message. That's

Re: Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-29 Thread Tim Murphy
On 29 April 2013 16:19, Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org wrote: Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:58:50 +0100 From: Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com Cc: bug-make@gnu.org bug-make@gnu.org try interpreting error messages from compiler/tool X when they're 10 lines from the file that they refer to and

Re: Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:40:03 +0100 From: Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com Cc: bug-make@gnu.org bug-make@gnu.org cc fred.c -c -o fred.o cc bob.c -c -o bob.o error on line 20 -X Which one? Make will actually tell you which one, something like: makefile:342: recipe for target

Re: Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-29 Thread Philip Guenther
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com wrote: cc fred.c -c -o fred.o cc bob.c -c -o bob.o error on line 20 -X error on line 30 - error on line 330 - makefile:342: recipe for target 'fred.o' failed makefile:350: recipe for target 'bob.o' failed ?

Re: Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-29 Thread Tim Murphy
Come now - the broken excuse is an excuse. There's plenty of crap free software out there and some poor bastard trying to build it who can't change the source because the people who own it think it should be make's problem. :-) Cheers, Tim On 29 April 2013 19:00, Philip Guenther

Re: Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:30:37 +0100 From: Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com Cc: bug-make@gnu.org bug-make@gnu.org cc fred.c -c -o fred.o cc bob.c -c -o bob.o error on line 20 -X error on line 30 - error on line 330 - makefile:342: recipe for target 'fred.o' failed

Re: Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 19:33:10 +0100 From: Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com Cc: Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org, bug-make@gnu.org bug-make@gnu.org Come now - the broken excuse is an excuse. There's plenty of crap free software out there and some poor bastard trying to build it who can't change

Re: Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-29 Thread Tim Murphy
One doesn't have to suffer the problems and learn the option exists afterwards. In the end I can understand why a new feature might not be default to start with - until a lot of people have used it and are sure that it works everywhere. Cheers, Tim On 29 April 2013 20:21, Eli Zaretskii

Re: Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-29 Thread Edward Welbourne
Eli: cc fred.c -c -o fred.o cc bob.c -c -o bob.o error on line 20 -X error on line 30 - error on line 330 - makefile:342: recipe for target 'fred.o' failed makefile:350: recipe for target 'bob.o' failed You need to look in both anyway. That is true of the very specific

Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-28 Thread Paul Smith
Now that we seem to have a workable solution for output synchronization for both POSIX and Windows systems, I wonder if we shouldn't consider enabling it as the default mode when parallel builds are running. I understand that this will be a change that could be visible (beyond the collection of

Re: Default output-sync setting (was: Re: [bug #33138] .PARLLELSYNC enhancement with patch)

2013-04-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Paul Smith psm...@gnu.org Cc: bug-make@gnu.org Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 22:03:39 -0400 Now that we seem to have a workable solution for output synchronization for both POSIX and Windows systems, I wonder if we shouldn't consider enabling it as the default mode when parallel builds are