Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-14 Thread Gavin Smith
On 10 October 2015 at 08:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > So I guess we should have an option to enable/disable this feature, > since "one size fits all" clearly doesn't work here? > I see there is already an undocumented option to ignore left quotes (introduced for the 2nd edition of "Free Software,

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-10 Thread Gavin Smith
On 10 October 2015 at 08:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 21:51:31 GMT >> From: Karl Berry >> >> Wrt the general point: as far as I can imagine, the (vast) majority of >> manuals indexing \ sequences would be for C-style \n, \r, etc. As a >> reader, I would certainly expect thos

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 21:51:31 GMT > From: Karl Berry > > Wrt the general point: as far as I can imagine, the (vast) majority of > manuals indexing \ sequences would be for C-style \n, \r, etc. As a > reader, I would certainly expect those to be indexed under \. > > Wrt \mathopsup: since \ is

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 16:39:14 +0100 > From: Gavin Smith > Cc: Texinfo > > On 9 October 2015 at 08:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > So perhaps we should introduce a facility for such tests, and > > preferably in a way that is itself backward-compatible, e.g., testable > > with @ifset or some such

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 21:08:11 +0100 > From: Gavin Smith > Cc: Texinfo > > There is a new syntax for specifying an explicit sort key that was > introduced after the Texinfo 6.0 release. It looks like > > @cindex @sortas{\ escape sequence} \ (backslash), escape sequence > > Here "\ (backslash

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-09 Thread Gavin Smith
On 9 October 2015 at 08:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > So perhaps we should introduce a facility for such tests, and > preferably in a way that is itself backward-compatible, e.g., testable > with @ifset or some such. It already exists. See (texinfo)Testing for Texinfo Commands: These

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-09 Thread Aharon Robbins
and the < sign? Thanks, Arnold > Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 21:08:11 +0100 > Subject: Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem? > From: Gavin Smith > To: Aharon Robbins > Cc: Texinfo > > On 8 October 2015 at 20:06, Aharon Robbins wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I add

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-09 Thread Karl Berry
> many manuals have indexed items starting with a backslash that are > better indexed under a letter following the backslash (an example from > Texinfo's manual is \mathopsup, better indexed under "M"). I suppose this decision is already made, but I feel compelled to kibitz, sorry: it

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-09 Thread Quinn Grier
On 2015-10-09 02:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Btw, my usual problem with such new features is that it's impossible (AFAIK) to use them in a manual in a backward-compatible way, i.e. while making sure older versions of makeinfo will process the manual without errors. That's because there's no way (ag

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 11:48:44 +0100 > From: Gavin Smith > Cc: Aharon Robbins , Texinfo > > On 9 October 2015 at 08:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Btw, my usual problem with such new features is that it's impossible > > (AFAIK) to use them in a manual in a backward-compatible way, > > i.e. whil

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-09 Thread Gavin Smith
On 9 October 2015 at 08:00, Aharon Robbins wrote: > Hi. THanks for the mail. I moved to current development code for > texindex and braces are working. I note that hyphens and < signs > also get removed from the key for the index. Is that on purpose? > > I can go ahead and add @sortas, but I'm w

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-09 Thread Gavin Smith
On 9 October 2015 at 08:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Btw, my usual problem with such new features is that it's impossible > (AFAIK) to use them in a manual in a backward-compatible way, > i.e. while making sure older versions of makeinfo will process the > manual without errors. That's because ther

Re: texinfo 6.0 texindex problem?

2015-10-08 Thread Gavin Smith
On 8 October 2015 at 20:06, Aharon Robbins wrote: > Hi. > > I added > > @tex > \global\usebracesinindexestrue > @end tex > > to gawktexi.in in the gawk dist and built a pdf with the tools from > texinfo 6.0. Something's weird. First, there is no initial for \. > Second, braces come out under bac