Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle

2007-11-13 Thread johan beisser
On Nov 11, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Duncan Simpson wrote: The signal-to-noise logic probably does work, but I am not sure the legal angle does. If you were *deliberately* ran the software that acidently downloaded that kiddie porn the suggested angle might not work. That's been an ongoing question

Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle

2007-11-13 Thread Duncan Simpson
I know this is obvious to everyone on bugtraq, but nobody seems to that told P.S.Ziegler yet. (He might or might not be aware of these facts). If the report is right and logs recoriding you connecting and obtaining an IP address are a concern then you should be terrified already. I suspect that

Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle

2007-11-13 Thread Peter Conrad
Hi, Am Samstag, 10. November 2007 19:53 schrieb Jan Newger: > > NO! This is totally WRONG! The only thing which is logged, in the case > of internet connectivity, is your IP you got from the ISP. Not even > connections are logged! This is important to understand since many > people are misinformed

Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle

2007-11-12 Thread Jan Newger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Sebastian Ziegler wrote: > > Dear Infosec community, > > > > as most of you may have heard the German government passed a law today > > that will lead to all connections being logged for 6 months. This > > includes phone calls as well as all inter