Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-23 Thread Mailing lists at Core Security Technologies
Aras Russ Memisyazici wrote: How effective is what Tom Grace suggests? Unless I'm misunderstanding, he's suggesting switching to an iptables based protection along with a registry tweak... ahh the good ol' batch firewall :) Would this actually work as a viable work-around? I realize M$

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-17 Thread Aras Russ Memisyazici
PM To: Thor (Hammer of God) Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? It's only default for people running XP standalone/consumer that are not even in a home network settings. That kinda slices and dices

Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-17 Thread John Morrison
@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? Yes, they used the bulletin to soft-pedal the description, but at the same time I think they send a message about XP users being on shaky ground. Just because they've got 4+ years of Extended Support Period left

Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-17 Thread Susan Bradley
- From: Larry Seltzer [mailto:la...@larryseltzer.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:03 PM To: Susan Bradley; Thor (Hammer of God) Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? Yes, they used the bulletin

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
Read the bulletin. There's no patch. It is deemed by Microsoft to be of low impact and thus no patch has been built. Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hi Aras, Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP users by not issuing a patch for a DoS level issue, Can you cite a

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS09-048 - Critical: Vulnerabilities in Windows TCP/IP Could Allow Remote Code Execution (967723): http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS09-048.mspx PBIf Windows XP is listed as an affected product, why is Microsoft not issuing an update for it?/BBRBy

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Eric C. Lukens
Original Message Subject: Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? From: Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com To: nowh...@devnull.com Cc: bugtraq@securityfocus.com, full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Date: 9/15/09 3:49 PM Hi Aras, Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Susan, Read the bulletin. There's no patch. It is deemed by Microsoft to be of low impact and thus no patch has been built. I don't know how I missed that XP/SP2 and above were not being patched. It appears that my two references are worhtless... I used to use them in position papers! *

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Matt Riddell
On 16/09/09 8:49 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hi Aras, Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP users by not issuing a patch for a DoS level issue, Can you cite a reference? http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/09/15/0131209 -- Cheers, Matt Riddell Director

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
It's not that they aren't supported per se, just that Microsoft has deemed the impact of DOS to be low, the ability to patch that platform impossible/difficult and thus have make a risk calculation accordingly. Sometimes the architecture is what it is. Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hi Susan,

Re: Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Elizabeth . a . greene
As I understand the bulletin, Microsoft will not be releasing MS09-048 patches for XP because, by default, it runs no listening services or the windows firewall can protect it. Quoting http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS09-048.mspx If Windows XP is listed as an affected

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
, September 15, 2009 2:37 PM To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? Reference: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9138007/Microsoft_No_TCP_IP_patc hes_for_you_XP MS claims the patch would

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Larry Seltzer
-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:00 AM To: Eric C. Lukens; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? Thanks for the link. The problem here

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
16, 2009 8:00 AM To: Eric C. Lukens; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? Thanks for the link. The problem here is that not enough information is given, and what IS given is obviously watered down

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Tom Grace
Is this relevant? QUOTE--- Protect to 2 for the best protection against SYN attacks. This value adds additional delays to connection indications, and TCP connection requests quickly timeout when a SYN attack is in progress. This parameter is the recommended setting. NOTE: The following

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
Only if you are a consumer. In a network we ALL have listening ports out there. elizabeth.a.gre...@gmail.com wrote: As I understand the bulletin, Microsoft will not be releasing MS09-048 patches for XP because, by default, it runs no listening services or the windows firewall can protect

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
...@larryseltzer.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:21 AM To: Thor (Hammer of God); Eric C. Lukens; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? I agree that the FAQ explanation in the advisory is vague about what

Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:16 AM To: Thor (Hammer of God) Cc: bugtraq@securityfocus.com; full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? It's XP. Running in RDP mode. It's got IE6, and wants antivirus. Of course it's vulnerable

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
, September 16, 2009 10:16 AM To: Thor (Hammer of God) Cc: bugtraq@securityfocus.com; full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? It's XP. Running in RDP mode. It's got IE6, and wants antivirus. Of course it's vulnerable to any

Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
[mailto:full- disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:00 AM To: Eric C. Lukens; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? Thanks for the link

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Rob Thompson
Susan Bradley wrote: Only if you are a consumer. In a network we ALL have listening ports out there. This is simply Microsofts way of forcing you to upgrade your OS. They pulled the same shenanigans with Windows 2000, if you do not recall. I'd have to say, it's time to re-evaluate where you

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Susan Bradley
Cloud option maybe as we go forward but right now today, this is business making the decisions here. Desktop, if it were that easy we'd have ripped out desktops years ago. Businesses have to be realistic. Sometimes there is not plenty of comparable alternatives out there. Sometimes the

RE: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-16 Thread Larry Seltzer
(Hammer of God) Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048? It's only default for people running XP standalone/consumer that are not even in a home network settings. That kinda slices and dices that default down

3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-15 Thread Aras Russ Memisyazici
Hello All: Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP users by not issuing a patch for a DoS level issue, I'm now curious to find out whether or not any brave souls out there are already working or willing to work on an open-source patch to remediate the issue within XP. I

Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

2009-09-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Aras, Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP users by not issuing a patch for a DoS level issue, Can you cite a reference? Unless Microsoft has changed their end of life policy [1], XP should be patched for security vulnerabilities until about 2014. Both XP Home and