Re: TCP Timestamping and Remotely gathering uptime information

2001-03-20 Thread van der Kooij, Hugo
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Darren Reed wrote: In some mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED], sie said: Actually, the logic is "This has been up for 300 days. It probably is not being maintained so it likely has that unpatched exploit avaialable". I thought about this before I posted that email but

Re: TCP Timestamping and Remotely gathering uptime information

2001-03-20 Thread Theo de Raadt
Darren Reed said: Why do you think all timestamps should not reveal uptime information ? Well, not to speak on Bret's behalf per se, but personally, I've seen plenty of software (the quality of which may be in question) that uses uptime (or clock-ticks-since-boot, whatever) for a variety

Re: TCP Timestamping and Remotely gathering uptime information

2001-03-19 Thread Chris Tobkin
linux, with port 53 open, I'd suspect it's probably unpatched. The trials and tribulations of "friendly" information... // Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Darren Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Su

Re: TCP Timestamping and Remotely gathering uptime information

2001-03-19 Thread Ted U
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Emre Yildirim wrote: I might be completely wrong here but what about sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=0 no, that disables timestamps. rfc1323 support is needed (or will be) for high speed networks, where the sequence numbers can roll over. then delayed packets might

Re: TCP Timestamping and Remotely gathering uptime information

2001-03-19 Thread Matt Lewis
Darren Reed said: Why do you think all timestamps should not reveal uptime information ? Well, not to speak on Bret's behalf per se, but personally, I've seen plenty of software (the quality of which may be in question) that uses uptime (or clock-ticks-since-boot, whatever) for a variety of

Re: TCP Timestamping and Remotely gathering uptime information

2001-03-19 Thread arivanov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 15-Mar-2001 Darren Reed wrote: So when do we change things like "uname" such that they no longer report the system "identity" (OS, OS rev) to anyone but root ? Why do you think all timestamps should not reveal uptime information ? What do you think

Re: TCP Timestamping and Remotely gathering uptime information

2001-03-19 Thread Darren Reed
In some mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED], sie said: Actually, the logic is "This has been up for 300 days. It probably is not being maintained so it likely has that unpatched exploit avaialable". I thought about this before I posted that email but decided against any inclusion of it. Why ? There

Re: TCP Timestamping and Remotely gathering uptime information

2001-03-19 Thread Stephen White
On Wed, Mar, 2001, Bret wrote: either by creating a new 'timestamp clock' for each TCP session (that uses timestamps) You can't do this .. it breaks the use of such timestamps for things like TCP Sequence number wrap-around protection on fast networks (gigabit). or by starting the timestamp

Re: TCP Timestamping and Remotely gathering uptime information

2001-03-16 Thread Darren Reed
So when do we change things like "uname" such that they no longer report the system "identity" (OS, OS rev) to anyone but root ? Why do you think all timestamps should not reveal uptime information ? What do you think is at risk here ? Are script kiddies going to say "ooh, he's been up for 500

Re: TCP Timestamping and Remotely gathering uptime information

2001-03-14 Thread Fyodor
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Bret wrote: TCP Timestamping - Obtaining System Uptime Remotely By Bret McDanel [EMAIL PROTECTED] March 11, 2001 [ CUT ] I did my testing under linux, and in order to easily retrieve the remote Timestamp I had to