Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Olivier Lamy
Hi all, I'm sure some of you followed this story :-). Two questions : * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle : IMHO the most active is the Jenkins one) * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org Thoughts ? (and sure no rush :-) ) Thanks, -- Olivier

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle : IMHO the most active is the Jenkins one) Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL

RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Uwe Schindler
Jenkins also fixes the Clover.xml problems affecting almost every clover-enabled build (hopefully): https://github.com/lacostej/jenkins/commit/31b8361d3152fb7970e1c11c906a763fa 1aa5c25 (see also attached issue mail arriving here few minutes ago). It's very important to fix this ASAP, as we have

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson nik...@protocol7.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle : IMHO the most active is the Jenkins one) Time will tell, but I'm betting on the

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Nicolas Lalevée
+1 for jenkins for the host name I think we should have only one official url. Then which one I don't care that much. Nicolas Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit : +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect. Nige On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: On Thu, Feb 3,

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Giridharan Kesavan
+1 for Jenkins. regards, Giri On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Nigel Daley wrote: +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect. Nige On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson nik...@protocol7.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28

AW: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Jan Matèrne
+1 for Jenkins +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao And mark hudson.a.o as deprecated. Jan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21 An: builds@apache.org Betreff: Re: Questions : install

Re: AW: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Scott O'Bryan
+1 for redirect. It will allow us time to switch our cron scripts which pull information from hudson. Will anything else I our URL's to the artifacts change? On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Jan Matèrne apa...@materne.de wrote: +1 for Jenkins +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao And

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Paul Benedict
I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is claiming the name as a trademark. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne apa...@materne.de wrote: +1 for Jenkins +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao And mark hudson.a.o as deprecated. Jan -Ursprüngliche

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Scott O'Bryan
Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure that it doesn't apply to subdomains. I'm okay with migrating the domain name, but there should be a grace period. Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up for everyone who cares .. :) On Feb 3, 2011, at

RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Gav...
All, The Hudson domain name go, the Jenkins name will NOT appear in its place. We need to learn and not use brand names as domain (sub) domains. So we need to think of a generic name, apply it real soon - within the next day or two, then redirect the old Hudson name for a few days. get

RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Uwe Schindler
Hi, The Hudson domain name go, the Jenkins name will NOT appear in its place. That's exactly my opinion, too. We need to learn and not use brand names as domain (sub) domains. Jenkins is not a brand (currently) but it may get one. More important is: why do we need the product name as part

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 for builds as the domain name. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Uwe Schindler u...@thetaphi.de wrote: +1! Just simple: builds.apache.org?

RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Gav...
-Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 8:46 AM To: builds@apache.org Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson Folks, by all means choose another name, but please don't drag 'trademark' into it.

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 for builds.a.o 2011/2/3 Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com: +1 for builds as the domain name. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Uwe Schindler u...@thetaphi.de wrote: +1! Just simple: builds.apache.org? -- Olivier Lamy http://twitter.com/olamy http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Benson Margulies
OK, I'll expand. Based on all the reading I've done about trademark law, inside and outside of the ASF, I think that it is utterly far-fetched to worry about the idea that Oracle will assert some sort of trademark infringement if we have a domain name of hudson.apache.org for any purpose in

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Ted Dunning
Even if the trademark stuff is marginally relevant, having the redirect in place actually lets us change the real name sooner rather than later and thus be more cautious rather than less. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: So I claim that the trademark

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Uwe Schindler u...@thetaphi.de wrote: +1! Just simple: builds.apache.org? We already have http://ci.apache.org/ that contains buildbot under http://ci.apache.org/buildbot.html. I'd put Jenkins under http://ci.apache.org/jenkins/. Keeping the product name in

RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Gav...
It is product names of external products we no longer want in any sub-domains, that includes Hudson and Jenkins, nothing to do with trademarks and certainly nothing to do with Oracle, we are following Koshukes code as a choice by the community and we have committers involved with that

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Scott O'Bryan
Fair enough Paul, but that was a preference. They would not have been sued for trademark violations over the name java. On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: Actually, the reason Apache chose the jakarta project is because they didn't want to use java in the

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Scott O'Bryan
Totally agree. On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, by all means choose another name, but please don't drag 'trademark' into it. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: Actually, the reason Apache chose the

Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson

2011-02-03 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Uwe Schindler u...@thetaphi.de wrote: Just simple: builds.apache.org? +1 /niklas