Well, we've all been yammering for many years, and the message is
getting through. Yes, at this point, changing the message to be more
directed at engineers than users would help, and to this day, I don't
know how to get to anyone in the
C suite, except through the complaints of their kids. Jim
> On Oct 11, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Bob McMahon wrote:
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> I agree that bufferbloat awareness is a good thing. The issue I have is the
> approach - ask consumers to "detect it" and replace a device with a new one,
> that may or may not, meet all the needs of the users.
>
> Better is that
Graphs are on the todo list but not a high priority. Too many
different ways to graph, e.g. gnuplot, matplotlib. Also, if one wants full
features including one way delays (OWD,) the GPS & pulse per second is
useful. A GPS hat on a raspberry pi
Hi Bob,
Sweet, thanks! Will go and set this up in my home network, but that will take a
while. Also any proposal how to convert the output into some graphs by any
chance?
Regards
Sebastian
On 11 October 2022 18:58:05 CEST, Bob McMahon wrote:
>> Saturate a link in both directions
I agree that bufferbloat awareness is a good thing. The issue I have is the
approach - ask consumers to "detect it" and replace a device with a new
one, that may or may not, meet all the needs of the users.
Better is that network engineers "design bloat out" from the beginning
starting by
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 9:58 AM Bob McMahon via Rpm
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> > Saturate a link in both directions simultaneously with multiple greedy
> > flows while measuring load-dependent latency changes for small isochronous
> > probe flows.
>
> This functionality is released in iperf 2.1.8 per the
> Saturate a link in both directions simultaneously with multiple greedy
flows while measuring load-dependent latency changes for small isochronous
probe flows.
This functionality is released in iperf 2.1.8 per the bounceback feature
but, unfortunately, OpenWRT doesn't maintain iperf 2 as a
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 6:57 AM Rich Brown via Make-wifi-fast
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> On Oct 10, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Bob McMahon via Rpm
> wrote:
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> > I think conflating bufferbloat with latency misses the subtle point in that
> > bufferbloat is a measurement in memory units more than a measurement in
>
> On Oct 10, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Bob McMahon via Rpm
> wrote:
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> > I think conflating bufferbloat with latency misses the subtle point in that
> > bufferbloat is a measurement in memory units more than a measurement in
> > time units.
Yes, but... I am going to praise this video, even as I
No we don't. I think someone without all the legacy imposed on an old ISP as
Telenor needs to go for that market.
And when I see how difficult it is to get customer to swap devices even when we
give it to them for free - I don't see a viable business made from selling CPEs
when not backed by
Hi Bob,
On 11 October 2022 02:05:40 CEST, Bob McMahon wrote:
>It's too big because it's oversized so it's in the size domain. It's
>basically Little's law's value for the number of items in a queue.
>
>*Number of items in the system = (the rate items enter and leave the
>system) x (the average
I guess my question is, erik, do you sell these routers commercially?
There is a huge latent market in the US that could use upgrades.
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Hi Erik,
On 11 October 2022 08:08:14 CEST, Taraldsen Erik
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>On 10/10/2022, 22:23, "Cake on behalf of Sebastian Moeller via Cake"
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>wrote:
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> [SM] Tricky... e.g. vectoring enabled CPE can be instructed by the
> DSLAM to send error samples in-band with the data, but that
Hi Bob,
On 10 October 2022 18:45:31 CEST, Bob McMahon wrote:
>I think conflating bufferbloat with latency misses the subtle point in that
>bufferbloat is a measurement in memory units more than a measurement in
>time units. The first design flaw is a queue that is too big.
[SM] I tend to
On 10/10/2022, 22:23, "Cake on behalf of Sebastian Moeller via Cake"
wrote:
[SM] Tricky... e.g. vectoring enabled CPE can be instructed by the
DSLAM to send error samples in-band with the data, but that traffic is never
seen by our shapers, so to account for that we need to set a
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