Re: [Cake] some comprehensive arm64 w/cake results

2023-09-28 Thread David Lang via Cake
On Thu, 28 Sep 2023, Sebastian Moeller via Cake wrote: P.S.: I am tempted, but will likely wait until they are available in quantity and hope that the street price comes down a bit before getting one ;) They aren't available at all yet, and it's not clear when they will be available.

Re: [Cake] some comprehensive arm64 w/cake results

2023-09-28 Thread David Lang via Cake
On Thu, 28 Sep 2023, Jonathan Morton via Cake wrote: On 28 Sep, 2023, at 3:15 pm, Sebastian Moeller wrote: This promises even better performance for loads like cake than the already pretty nifty pi4B Well, increased computing performance is always welcome - but as I've said before, in

Re: [Cake] [Bloat] Two questions re high speed congestion management anddatagram protocols

2023-06-27 Thread David Lang via Cake
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, David P. Reed via Bloat wrote: Sorry for top posting, but ... Bigger question: Why would DCCP be deprecated by Linux kernel? Who makes that decision? Who argues against it? Linus or the networking maintaners make the decision. Usually things get pulled from the kernel

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-19 Thread David Lang via Cake
to SM's question, there is per-transmission overhead that you want to amatorize across multiple ethernet packets, not pay for each packet. David Lang On Wed, 19 Oct 2022, David P. Reed wrote: 4 microseconds! On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 3:23pm, "David Lang via Cake" said:

Re: [Cake] [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-19 Thread David Lang via Cake
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022, Stuart Cheshire via Bloat wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:02 PM Stuart Cheshire wrote: Accuracy be damned. The analogy to common experience resonates more. I feel it is not an especially profound insight to observe that, “people don’t like waiting in line.” The

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-19 Thread David Lang via Cake
you have to listen and hear nothing for some timeframe before you transmit, that listening time is define in the standard. (isn't it??) David Lang On Wed, 19 Oct 2022, Bob McMahon wrote: I'm not sure where the gap in milliseconds is coming from. EDCA gaps are mostly driven by probabilities

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-19 Thread David Lang via Cake
On Tue, 18 Oct 2022, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Bob, Many network engineers typically, though incorrectly, perceive a transmit unit as one ethernet packet. With WiFi it's one Mu transmission or one Su transmission, with aggregation(s), which is a lot more than one ethernet packet but it

Re: [Cake] [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-17 Thread David Lang via Cake
On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, Dave Taht via Bloat wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:02 PM Stuart Cheshire wrote: On 9 Oct 2022, at 06:14, Dave Taht via Make-wifi-fast wrote: > This was so massively well done, I cried. Does anyone know how to get in touch with the ifxit folk? > >

Re: [Cake] [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-10 Thread David Lang via Cake
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022, Bob McMahon via Bloat wrote: I think conflating bufferbloat with latency misses the subtle point in that bufferbloat is a measurement in memory units more than a measurement in time units. The first design flaw is a queue that is too big. This youtube video analogy doesn't