Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2024-04-29 Thread Stuart Cheshire via Cake
On 20 Oct 2022, at 02:36, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Stuart, > > [SM] That seems to be somewhat optimistic. We have been there before, short > of mandating actually-working oracle schedulers on all end-points, > intermediate hops will see queues some more and some less transient. So we >

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-26 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Cake
Hi Dave, > On Oct 26, 2022, at 22:42, Dave Taht wrote: > > I loved paced chirping. [SM] Yes it sounded like a clever idea (however I would prefer a clearer signal from the network about queue-filling). However I have heard precious little about parced-chirping actually working in

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-26 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I loved paced chirping. I also loved packet subwindows. I wish we could all agree to get cracking on working on those two things for cubic and reno rather than whinging all the time about the stuff we will never agree on. ___ Cake mailing list

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-26 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Cake
Hi Stuart, > On Oct 20, 2022, at 20:32, Stuart Cheshire wrote: > > On 20 Oct 2022, at 02:36, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > >> Hi Stuart, >> >> [SM] That seems to be somewhat optimistic. We have been there before, short >> of mandating actually-working oracle schedulers on all end-points, >>

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-21 Thread Bob McMahon via Cake
Hi All, I just wanted to say thanks for this discussion. I always learn from each and all of you. Bob On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 12:40 PM Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Dave, > > > > On Oct 20, 2022, at 21:12, Dave Taht via Rpm > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 12:04 PM Bob McMahon via

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Cake
Hi Dave, > On Oct 20, 2022, at 21:12, Dave Taht via Rpm > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 12:04 PM Bob McMahon via Make-wifi-fast > wrote: >> >> Intel has a good analogous video on this with their CPU video here going >> over branches and failed predictions. And to Stuart's point, the

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-20 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:32 AM Stuart Cheshire wrote: > > On 20 Oct 2022, at 02:36, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > > > Hi Stuart, > > > > [SM] That seems to be somewhat optimistic. We have been there before, short > > of mandating actually-working oracle schedulers on all end-points, > >

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Cake
Hi Stuart, > On Oct 19, 2022, at 22:44, Stuart Cheshire via Rpm > wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:02 PM Stuart Cheshire wrote: > >> Accuracy be damned. The analogy to common experience resonates more. > > I feel it is not an especially profound insight to observe that, “people >