Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Dave Taht
Also, it is easier (for me at least) to download a tarball of all your results for a given run, rather than each one individually. I am thinking we can rename ack-filter-aggressive to ack-filter-too-damn-aggressive. Dave Taht writes: > I just want to verify that you increased

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Georgios Amanakis writes: > Results with irtt/flent-git. Same setup as before: Looks like that is still using netperf for the UDP measurements. Flent does some sanity checks on irtt before using it, which may be failing. Running flent with -v should give some hints...

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Pete Heist
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:24 PM Georgios Amanakis wrote: > I just installed flent-git (thanks for the aur) and irtt, was more > straightforward than I expected :) > In my setup netserver runs on server, flent runs on client. Where should I > run irtt server? > irtt server

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Georgios Amanakis writes: > @Pete @Toke just saw your responses. Thank you very much for the > explanation. I will give irtt and flent-git a try, and maybe build an > aur package for archlinux. There's already an AUR package for flent-git; haven't gotten around to making

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Georgios Amanakis
@Pete @Toke just saw your responses. Thank you very much for the explanation. I will give irtt and flent-git a try, and maybe build an aur package for archlinux. George On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Pete Heist wrote: > > > On Nov 29, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Toke

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Pete Heist
> On Nov 29, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > >> (That was also informative for me about how netperf decides when to >> emit a data point…) > > In that case I can add that the stated reason for this way of doing > things is performance (i.e., emitting data points

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Georgios Amanakis
I did some more testing. Same setup as before, I varied the amount of delay: server--delay--mbox--client netserver Xms/Xms 45/900mbit Cake config: qdisc cake 801b: dev mbox.l root refcnt 2 bandwidth 45Mbit diffserv3

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
> (That was also informative for me about how netperf decides when to > emit a data point…) In that case I can add that the stated reason for this way of doing things is performance (i.e., emitting data points should not interfere with transfer performance). This is mostly an issue on systems

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Pete Heist
> On Nov 29, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > > Georgios Amanakis > writes: > >> I am troubled by the number of data points flent reports for some pings and >> uploads in this setup. A typical ack-filter result,

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Georgios Amanakis writes: > I am troubled by the number of data points flent reports for some pings and > uploads in this setup. A typical ack-filter result, similar to rrul2 I > posted before, looks like this: > Summary of rrul test run 'rrul_cakeeth_ds3_900mbit_45mbit_ack'

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Georgios Amanakis
I am troubled by the number of data points flent reports for some pings and uploads in this setup. A typical ack-filter result, similar to rrul2 I posted before, looks like this: Summary of rrul test run 'rrul_cakeeth_ds3_900mbit_45mbit_ack' (at 2017-11-29 14:37:5 5.719180):

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Georgios Amanakis
With ack-filter-aggressive I get results similar to rrul1 in ~10% of the runs, 90% are similar to rrul2. With ack-filter I haven't managed yet to get a rrul1 result, all of them are similar to rrul2. Will experiment more today. George On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Dave Taht

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-29 Thread Pete Heist
> On Nov 29, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Pete Heist wrote: > >> On Nov 29, 2017, at 4:42 AM, Georgios Amanakis wrote: >> >> @Pete I think you need to start netserver on the client first (in your case, >> you are running flent on the server): "ip netns exec

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-28 Thread Georgios Amanakis
@Pete I think you need to start netserver on the client first (in your case, you are running flent on the server): "ip netns exec client netserver" On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Pete Heist wrote: > > > On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:52 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > >

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-28 Thread Pete Heist
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:52 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > A diffserv 200Mbit result would be good. > > We are utterly out of cpu at 900mbits here. > > Wow, I see flent’s combination plots are handy though. Stuff to sort in irtt also. Merely setting the source IP of an outgoing

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-28 Thread Dave Taht
Pete Heist writes: >> On Nov 28, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> Pete Heist writes: >> >>> *** Round 3 Plans: >>> >>> * Use netem to test a spread of simulated rtts and bandwidths. >> >> Since you are leveraging a few too

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-28 Thread Pete Heist
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > Pete Heist writes: > >> *** Round 3 Plans: >> >> * Use netem to test a spread of simulated rtts and bandwidths. > > Since you are leveraging a few too few boxes, attached are my current > scripts for

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-28 Thread Dave Taht
Pete Heist writes: > > *** Round 3 Plans: > > * Use netem to test a spread of simulated rtts and bandwidths. Since you are leveraging a few too few boxes, attached are my current scripts for fiddling a bit with network namespaces. I added individual ssh, irtt, etc, servers

Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2

2017-11-28 Thread Pete Heist
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Pete Heist wrote: > > * still don’t think I managed to get udp flood to work, must be doing > something wrong: > > http://www.drhleny.cz/bufferbloat/cake/round2/udpflood_eg_fq_codel_900mbit/index.html > >