Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-10 Thread Langdon Stevenson
Hi Grant >> In that example what I have found is that I tend to break the >> functionality down into smaller pieces that (for instance) just update >> small pieces of the view, or manipulate sections of the data. > > Ahh, I see what you mean. Not so much more complex actions for Ajax, > rather

Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-10 Thread Grant Cox
> In that example what I have found is that I tend to break the > functionality down into smaller pieces that (for instance) just update > small pieces of the view, or manipulate sections of the data. Ahh, I see what you mean. Not so much more complex actions for Ajax, rather more specific actio

Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-10 Thread Langdon Stevenson
Hi Grant >> Sure. The apps that I have created that use AJAX use it to combine >> - A production Batch >> -- Its Operations >> --- Each Operation's Inputs and Outputs >> Each Output's Storage Instances >> The best comparison would be something like Windows Explorer with the >> tree displaye

Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-10 Thread Grant Cox
Hi Langdon, > Sure. The apps that I have created that use AJAX use it to combine > - A production Batch > -- Its Operations > --- Each Operation's Inputs and Outputs > Each Output's Storage Instances > The best comparison would be something like Windows Explorer with the > tree displayed on

Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-10 Thread Langdon Stevenson
Hi Grant > Langdon - I am still in two minds as to whether a non-Javascript > version is really necessary. Because if it is, then I'll need to > write some alternative functionality in some places. But being able > to use the app on my mobile phone really does sounds neat. > Can you expand on w

Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-10 Thread Langdon Stevenson
Hi Samuel >>> and is more likely to work when javascript is disabled ;) >> >> This is meant to be a dig at me? :-) >> > > Not at all, I was simply trying to say that if one develops the > non-ajax workflow first. It is more likely that as one adds ajax to > the flow that things will continue t

Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-10 Thread Samuel DeVore
On 5/10/07, Langdon Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Samuel > > > and is more likely to work when javascript is disabled ;) > > This is meant to be a dig at me? :-) > Not at all, I was simply trying to say that if one develops the non-ajax workflow first. It is more likely that as one

Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-10 Thread Grant Cox
Langdon - I am still in two minds as to whether a non-Javascript version is really necessary. Because if it is, then I'll need to write some alternative functionality in some places. But being able to use the app on my mobile phone really does sounds neat. Can you expand on what Ajax specific ac

Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-10 Thread jitka
Hi Grant, Let me show You some sweet features of CakePHP 1.2, please... 1. CakePHP 1.2 can parse 'file extensions' in url so RequestHandler component can send proper headers and also customize helpers, viewPath and layoutPath properties of controller. By the other words: if Your ajax request wil

Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-10 Thread Langdon Stevenson
Hi Samuel > and is more likely to work when javascript is disabled ;) This is meant to be a dig at me? :-) If so, then let me clarify a little. If I can't guarantee that javascript is available, then I won't require it, either by providing a regular get/post alternative, or not using AJAX at

Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-09 Thread Samuel DeVore
and is more likely to work when javascript is disabled ;) On 5/9/07, Langdon Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Grant > > > Now, rather than describe what I have implemented for this, I am > > looking to hear what others have done in this situation. I don't want > > to taint your voices

Re: Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-09 Thread Langdon Stevenson
Hi Grant > Now, rather than describe what I have implemented for this, I am > looking to hear what others have done in this situation. I don't want > to taint your voices with my opinion, yet :P Surely there are a > number of applications that have both a "plain HTML" and Ajax enabled > version

Techniques for implementing multiple UIs (ie HTML, Ajax, Flash) for the same actions.

2007-05-09 Thread Grant Cox
Our application has finally reached a point where we are designing the final UI. Up until now we've kept to the cake standard, where all actions have their own HTML view, with minimal javascript (only for required functionality). This of course lends itself to a lot of page reloading and changin