Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Viras
Cordova sounds fine to me (thought not sure if my vote even counts ;)). Cordoba just reminds me to much of 1978 ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlauX42iLy8 ). Sadly we (as in Austrian people) still have to celebrate that happening ;). Best, Wolfgang Am 23.11.2011 07:37, schrieb eduardo pelegri-

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread eduardo pelegri-llopart
Thinking a bit more about on my own reactions to "Cordova"... If the name ellicits a relationship with the city in Spain, the "v" jumps at me, but if it is a relationship with the street in Vancouver, then it's OK. A cute logo could create the Vancouver/Street association. Logos don't show in pr

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Laurent Hasson
Hmmm are we over-thinking this a bit? I am for Cordoba myself, but frankly, either is good, and so much better than anything else we have come up with. Flip a coin? ___ LDH (Laurent Hasson) Technical Director, BlackBerry Web Platform Research In Motion Em

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Ben Plowman
An important consideration is that while many languages, including English, tend to rename countries (Deutschland -> Germany, España -> Spain, Nederland -> The Netherlands), renaming cities is much less common. Berlin stays Berlin, and the same is true of Madrid, Amsterdam, and so forth. Equally im

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Shazron
I appreciate that it is considered a misspelling outside of Spain - but I believe Cordova is just the name known for Córdoba in the English speaking world. Like Germany is the English name for Deutschland or Allemagne in French. On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:23 PM, eduardo pelegri-llopart wrote: > Sa

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread eduardo pelegri-llopart
Same here. As a native Spanish speaker, I shudder every time I see Spanish names mistreated in the US (and/or Canada). I appreciate the intent to link the project to the history of Nitobi, but I doubt most Spanish speaking will recognize it as such. Much more likely it will be seen as (yet anoth

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Ross Gardler
On 22 November 2011 23:22, Shazron wrote: > Clarification -  "non Apache releases" should NOT contain the Apache > 2.0 LICENSE and NOTICE files, as well as Apache src headers, correct? There can be no mention of The Apache Software Foundation in a release that is not an Apache release. You can st

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Shazron
Clarification - "non Apache releases" should NOT contain the Apache 2.0 LICENSE and NOTICE files, as well as Apache src headers, correct? Or is it ok to include them currently while we are in transition. http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Brian LeRoux

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
> How long will this "non Apache releases" go on form your planning? The > issues yo mean - is that git@asf? That is a good question, no timeline planned, but having canonical rcs sorted is a first step to cutting a release. What else should we know about?

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread RUDD, Brett
i vote for cordova -Brett** On 22 November 2011 13:29, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 22 November 2011 21:07, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Ben Plowman > wrote: > >> Maybe Brian LeRoux can shed some light on the origin of the proposed > name > >> for those of us

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > yeah agree this will not be an Apache release---we planned to continue > w/ precedent of continuous delivery while we sort out ASF related > issues in parallel. would appreciate any other insight to process you > have How long will this "non

Re: DISCUSS [was Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova]

2011-11-22 Thread Ross Gardler
I should post here too since I changed the subject. It seems my search of MarkMail before sending this email was a demonstration of my, errr, fallability ;-) Please ignore my comments and instead see http://markmail.org/message/vcrw2swiwiwcojsd Ross On 22 November 2011 20:48, Ross Gardler

Re: DISCUSS [was Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova]

2011-11-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
There's another thread you can read w/ extensive discussion about Cordova. [1] [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-callback-dev/20.mbox/browser Trademark is open as far as I can see in public searches on the internet. On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Ross Gardler wrote

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Ross Gardler
On 22 November 2011 21:07, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Ben Plowman wrote: >> Maybe Brian LeRoux can shed some light on the origin of the proposed name >> for those of us who weren't around during the earlier discussion?... > > I'm not Brian but see here: http://m

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
yeah agree this will not be an Apache release---we planned to continue w/ precedent of continuous delivery while we sort out ASF related issues in parallel. would appreciate any other insight to process you have On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On Nov 22, 2011 4:54 PM, "Bri

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Michael Brooks
Cordova is in reference to Cordova Street [1] in Vancouver, BC. It is the street that Brian lives on and the street of the former Nitobi office (where PhoneGap was born). It's also the name of a set of build scripts [2] that are gradually finding their way into each PhoneGap (callback) project. [1

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Ben Plowman wrote: > Maybe Brian LeRoux can shed some light on the origin of the proposed name > for those of us who weren't around during the earlier discussion?... I'm not Brian but see here: http://markmail.org/message/vcrw2swiwiwcojsd -Bertrand

DISCUSS [was Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova]

2011-11-22 Thread Ross Gardler
I don't care what you call the project as long as you do proper due diligence on the proposed names. Has a trademark search been conducted? Where was the discussion that led to this vote held? Apache projects do everything on the public mailing lists this allows everyone an opportunity to partici

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Steven Gill
I meant cordova with a V. No A On 11-11-22 12:40 PM, "Steven Gill" wrote: >+1 cardova > > > >On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:17 PM, "Abu Obeida Bakhach" > wrote: > >> +1 for Cordoba, which is the more accurate pronunciation. Here are the >>reasons: >> >> - the original city in Spain is called Cordoba a

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Ben Plowman
Maybe Brian LeRoux can shed some light on the origin of the proposed name for those of us who weren't around during the earlier discussion? If it is supposed to be named after the city, then it makes much more sense to spell it Cordoba with a "b", however, it's possible there was some other reason

Variations (was: Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova)

2011-11-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Cardova, Cordoba, Cordova, WebKeg and what is with Heimdall? Are you all sure this is ready to vote? Probably giving points for the variations might be better. Btw, usually at the ASF we give 72h and sometimes a bit more (over the weekend) to let people vote. Don't want to nitpick, do as you pleas

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Ryan Willoughby
+1 On 11-11-22 12:16 PM, "Abu Obeida Bakhach" wrote: >+1 for Cordoba, which is the more accurate pronunciation. Here are the >reasons: > >- the original city in Spain is called Cordoba all right. >Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3rdoba,_Spain >City link: http://www.cordoba.es/ >-

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Steven Gill
+1 cardova On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:17 PM, "Abu Obeida Bakhach" wrote: > +1 for Cordoba, which is the more accurate pronunciation. Here are the > reasons: > > - the original city in Spain is called Cordoba all right. > Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3rdoba,_Spain > City link:

Re:1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Ross Gardler
On Nov 22, 2011 4:54 PM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: > > we were only planning on doing one more release for the year; how do > you feel about looking at shipping mid dec? Apache releases *must* be made from Apache hardware. Typically the first incubator release from Podlings takes quite a while to ge

RE: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Abu Obeida Bakhach
+1 for Cordoba, which is the more accurate pronunciation. Here are the reasons: - the original city in Spain is called Cordoba all right. Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3rdoba,_Spain City link: http://www.cordoba.es/ - the Cordova name is a variation that came after in naming the

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Patrick Mueller
+1 to Cordova with a 'v' -- Patrick Mueller http://muellerware.org

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Shazron
+1 for Cordova. On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > The subject says it all. If we're going to change it sooner is better. > We had rough consensus for Cordova in earlier threads so lets make it > official. > > +1 >

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Becky Gibson
-1 to avoid the renaming hassle On Nov 22, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Ken Wallis wrote: > Who knew there were so many Cordova's, even in the US aloneŠ ;) > > +1 if my vote matters... > -- > Ken Wallis > Manager ­ BlackBerry WebWorks > > Research In Motion > (905) 629-4746 x14369 > > > > > -Origi

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Ben Plowman
+1 Callback was quite generic. Cordova I can get behind. :-) On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Ken Wallis wrote: > Who knew there were so many Cordova's, even in the US aloneŠ ;) > > +1 if my vote matters... > -- > Ken Wallis > Manager ­ BlackBerry WebWorks > > Research In Motion > (905) 629-47

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Becky Gibson
I can't make Monday, 11/28 as I am on vacation until Wed. 11/30. I think the biggest issue for iOS is getting the whitelist (PhoneGap #324, #320, Callback #18) and loading in an iframe worked out. Location could use some love as there are still several issues open against it in PhoneGap and C

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Ken Wallis
Who knew there were so many Cordova's, even in the US aloneŠ ;) +1 if my vote matters... -- Ken Wallis Manager ­ BlackBerry WebWorks Research In Motion (905) 629-4746 x14369 -Original Message- From: Simon MacDonald Reply-To: "callback-dev@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Michael Brooks
+1 to Cordova with a 'v' On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Andrew Lunny wrote: > +1 > > On 22 November 2011 10:53, Laurent Hasson wrote: > > > With a 'v' or a 'b'? I thought we had left it to a 'b'. +1 either way. > > > > > > ___ > > LDH (Laurent Hasson)

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Andrew Lunny
+1 On 22 November 2011 10:53, Laurent Hasson wrote: > With a 'v' or a 'b'? I thought we had left it to a 'b'. +1 either way. > > > ___ > LDH (Laurent Hasson) > Technical Director, BlackBerry Web Platform > Research In Motion > Email: lhas...@rim.com > Mobi

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Laurent Hasson
With a 'v' or a 'b'? I thought we had left it to a 'b'. +1 either way. ___ LDH (Laurent Hasson) Technical Director, BlackBerry Web Platform Research In Motion Email: lhas...@rim.com Mobile: 646-460-7066 --

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Simon MacDonald
Si +1 Simon Mac Donald http://hi.im/simonmacdonald On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > The subject says it all. If we're going to change it sooner is better. > We had rough consensus for Cordova in earlier threads so lets make it > official. > > +1 >

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Filip Maj
So just to confirm: there is 0% chance for WebKeg? On 11-11-22 10:51 AM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: >The subject says it all. If we're going to change it sooner is better. >We had rough consensus for Cordova in earlier threads so lets make it >official. > >+1

Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Joe Bowser
+1 On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > The subject says it all. If we're going to change it sooner is better. > We had rough consensus for Cordova in earlier threads so lets make it > official. > > +1 >

[VOTE] rename callback to cordova

2011-11-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
The subject says it all. If we're going to change it sooner is better. We had rough consensus for Cordova in earlier threads so lets make it official. +1

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Filip Maj
Flex our JIRA workflows. Words that make me shudder ;D On 11-11-22 10:40 AM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: >Next Monday for an issue gardening sounds like a great idea.Would be >good to flex our JIRA workflows too. 11am? > >On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Simon MacDonald > wrote: >> I think one more

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Filip Maj
I can do that for BB by the end of this week On 11-11-22 10:30 AM, "Simon MacDonald" wrote: >I think one more release before the end of the year is doable. We may be a >bit shorter on resources leading up to the end of the year as folks are >starting to take vacations. > >We should schedule anot

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Next Monday for an issue gardening sounds like a great idea.Would be good to flex our JIRA workflows too. 11am? On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Simon MacDonald wrote: > I think one more release before the end of the year is doable. We may be a > bit shorter on resources leading up to the end of

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Simon MacDonald
I think one more release before the end of the year is doable. We may be a bit shorter on resources leading up to the end of the year as folks are starting to take vacations. We should schedule another issue review for early next week. That would be the time most folks would be available as many w

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Ken Wallis
Perfect, thanks Michael! -- Ken Wallis Manager ­ BlackBerry WebWorks Research In Motion (905) 629-4746 x14369 -Original Message- From: Michael Brooks Reply-To: "callback-dev@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:02:42 -0500 To: "callback-dev@incubator.apache.org" Subject:

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Filip Maj
>For BlackBerry, I'd like to set the Tablet OS pull request and OS X >Support >(no pull request) as goals for Callback 1.3. +1 - we should also update Cordova for this which I think is in dire need of a few pushes anyways. Certainly something I can help out with.

Re: bringing git to the asf

2011-11-22 Thread Dave Johnson
CouchDB Wiki Username: DaveJohnson On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Michael Brooks wrote: > CouchDB Wiki Username: MichaelBrooks > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > >> +1, FilMaj is mine >> >> >

Re: bringing git to the asf

2011-11-22 Thread Michael Brooks
CouchDB Wiki Username: MichaelBrooks On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > +1, FilMaj is mine > >

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Michael Brooks
Ken, For BlackBerry, I'd like to set the Tablet OS pull request and OS X Support (no pull request) as goals for Callback 1.3. I will be working on the Tablet pull request during the RIM/Adobe code session later this week! Michael On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Ken Wallis wrote: > Piggy-back

Re: bringing git to the asf

2011-11-22 Thread Filip Maj
+1, FilMaj is mine

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Ken Wallis
Piggy-backing on the pull requests question from Joe, what would be the scope? Would love to see the BlackBerry Tablet OS stuff pulled in (https://github.com/phonegap/phonegap-blackberry-webworks/pull/48), but do we need to get this migrated into the callback hierarchy? -- Ken Wallis Manager ­ B

Re: 1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Joe Bowser
I'm cool with it as long as we can get pull requests looked at. Joe On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > we were only planning on doing one more release for the year; how do > you feel about looking at shipping mid dec? >

1.3 release mid dec

2011-11-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
we were only planning on doing one more release for the year; how do you feel about looking at shipping mid dec?

Re: bringing git to the asf

2011-11-22 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Nov 22, 2011 6:53 AM, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > > > > > > On 11-11-19 9:22 AM, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote: > > > >>> I'm logged in but both still say "immutable page", d