Just out of curiosity, since I had a gig scheduled while this discussion
was going on, I tried substituting the phrase "right/left shoulders
around" for "gypsy." I had not taught the move in the beginners
session. The first dance this came up in had a neighbors gypsy 1-1/2.
I said "neighbors
They spell it with the y.
www.gypsy-association.co.uk
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 12:30 PM, John Meechan via Callers
callers-at-lists.sharedweight.net |sharedweight-garyes| <
lc5ghe4...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> We’ve had very few opinions, other than heresay, about gipsies in the UK.
> I have never
Here is is one people have a lot of fun with and it's a scatter set that has a
gypsy (which you can debate replacing with one of the many discussed
alternatives.)
Accretion Reel by Chris Page
(I'm very loose about numbers in a group. )
Groups of four (or 5 or 6 or whatever)
A1 balance the
No Aahz my logic is broken. Our perceptions and experiences are
different.
You said,
The question isn't whether using "gypsy" generates negative
stereotypes but whether using the word reminds people of existing
negative stereotypes and whether the people referred to by the word
have
Tom
Did you mean "self-deprecating" instead of "self-defecating"? Or did you
really mean to sh*t on yourself?
Or is this an American usage I'm unaware of?
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Jeremy
From: Callers [mailto:callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of
Tom Hinds via
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, Tom Hinds via Callers wrote:
>
> I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY WANT TO KNOW, who on this list believe that
> contra dancers have a negative view of the Romani people because of
> the word gypsy? Anyone?
You've got broken logic. The question isn't whether using "gypsy"
Hi Janet,
I agree entirely re "gypsy"!
But, please, not "Homo Sapien"!
"Homo Sapiens" is the singular. The "s" on the end does not
indicate plural. You can't take it off to make it singular.
The plural is "Homines Sapientes".
It hurts when I hear
In the season premiere of the U.S. tv show "Black-ish,” in an episode that
tackles who can use what racial slurs, “negro” comes up and causes offense to
Black characters. The following exchange occurs, between the protagonist’s
consistently racist boss and the protagonist:
“Well, in that case,
Tom, my estimation of you has risen even higher!
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers
> wrote:
>
> When this discussion started I decided to actually use honky instead of gypsy
> the next time I called. I would of course explain to the dancers
On Nov 1, 2015 3:30 PM, "John Meechan via Callers" <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> I have never heard the term gipsy used as a pejorative for Romany
gipsies, in fact their national body is called the Gipsy Council.
>
That might just mean it's an old organization. In the US the NAACP
Tom,
I find it humorous that we both had the same thought experiment. I read
"honky" as less offensive than "redneck", but that may be subjective and/or
semantic.
To be very plain:
The image we conjure up of a "gypsy" is a stereotype. "Gypsy" for many
invokes images of coin hip scarves and
Another dance I haven't seen mentioned yet in this thread is the
six-couple circle dance "Thread the Needle", not to be confused
with various other, very different dances also titled "Thread the
Needle". Here's a description:
Thread the Needle
Circle of six couples, numbered (in ccw
When this discussion started I decided to actually use honky instead
of gypsy the next time I called. I would of course explain to the
dancers this extremely important and delicate issue that is now
confronting the contra dance community. Why not get a chuckle from
the floor? I
If the group can tolerate a little chaos, there is no reason to limit
the sets to three couples. The first time through everyone in a set
with an odd number of couples gets a new partner in the same gender
role, but in a set with an even number everyone gets a new partner of
the same gender.
A dance I don't think anyone has mentioned yet is "Pride of
Dingle" (originally "Pride of Pingle") by Ken Alexander. You
can find various slightly differing versions here:
http://www.izaak.unh.edu/dlp/NorthernJunket/pages/NJv14/NJv14-02/NJv.14.02.p24.htm
Jacob Bloom mentioned this dance:
> Borrowdale Exchange - Scatter mixer
> Formation: three couples in circle
>
> Circle left, Circle right
> Forward and Back, partner dosido
> Hands-across right hand star. Starting with the two people whose hands are
> lowest, each pair pulls their partner to
Here's some of the dances I've done which haven't already been mentioned.
Set a Crochet - Traditional French Canadian
Couples scatter on floor, then find another couple
As couples, hook left elbows and turn
Circle left
Swing Neighbor, Swing Partner
Borrowdale Exchange - Scatter mixer
We’ve had very few opinions, other than heresay, about gipsies in the UK. I
have never heard the term gipsy used as a pejorative for Romany gipsies, in
fact their national body is called the Gipsy Council.
www.gipsy-association.co.uk
John Meechan
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From: Ron
I've found You Married My Daughter But Yet You Didn't to be a good
alternative tune for Levi Jackson Rag.
Jacob
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Bree Kalb via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Levi Jackson Rag is a favorite of mine but not all bands know the tune.
>
>
"who on this list believe that contra dancers have a negative view of the
Romani people because of the word gypsy?"
Over the last few days, as this conversation has spilled out onto a few
forms of social media, I have now heard specific stories about people who
are Roma and/or have Roma heritage
Hi David and all,
Those links are part of a playlist with a few more dances for five to seven
which weve done here at our NZ house dance.
http://youtu.be/iW8fjgZV2Jk?list=PLFp1up9ZoGxhevcz7leTScc1XfgpjOF2Q
Cheers, Bill
> On 2/11/2015, at 6:54, David Harding via Callers
>
You could try the contra modified version of Wendy Crouch's Winter Solstice
(square with an extra couple). Renamed Swinging Solstice for the other side
of the Pond. Features a grand square for 5 couples! Progression is
clockwise.
Although they do not feature swings she has Silver Thread ( 3
Donna,
Here are the figures for the three suggestions I sent.
David's Triplet # 5 (David Smuckler). It has a lovely hey for 6 w/ a P
Gyre & Swing to finish.
A-1 1s cast to bottom, ret up inside and cast around w/ same gender 2s
All face P, dsd 1 1/4 to wavy line of 6, P in RH
A-2 Bal
On Sun, Nov 01, 2015, Donna Hunt via Callers wrote:
>
> I'm doing a workshop on dances "outside the box" (ie, no squares or contras).
> Anyone have any interesting dances for contra dancers that fit the criteria?
Levi Jackson Rag would've been my first suggestion. I only skimmed the
thread,
After finding The Weevil (4 facing 3) on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM1vr2-QK_Q
I stumbled on a 3 facing 2 dance "inspired by 'The Weevil'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GAAf-9unRg
At Squirrel Moon this September Carol Ormand did an enjoyable workshop
on this theme. I don't
Levi Jackson can be done perfectly well to other tunes, though of course it is
best with it's own tune. Ragtime Annie (A and B parts only) is a nice
compromise that some bands know.
Martha
On Nov 1, 2015, at 4:17 AM, Bree Kalb via Callers wrote:
> Levi Jackson Rag is a favorite of mine but not
Chris' dance "Happy Ending", it's in the video description text if you
expand it.
On Nov 1, 2015 12:37 PM, "Kalia Kliban via Callers" <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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>
>
>
> This video has the tune being used for a contra:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp_pKOpn0mA
>
> Chris
On 11/1/2015 5:12 AM, Donna Hunt via Callers wrote:
Thanks everyone for great ideas.
It was late when I posted my request and I should mention that this is
an English/Contra crossover weekend (Princeton Country Dancers Head for
the Hills).
I'm definitely looking for dances that don't fit a
The Weevil is a great dance - - see it on You Tube.
Karin
On 11/1/15 8:38 AM, Jeremy Gmail via Callers wrote:
The Weevil (line of 4 facing line of 3)
The Weaving Way (Square inside another square)
Square 5 (a square with another couple in it)
Square 6 (a square with two other couples in it)
Hello all,
I had the pleasure of calling last night, to a mostly experienced crowd of
dancers (although I didn't recognize everyone in their costumes).
The third dance of the evening was the first one with a gypsy; and I took
30 seconds to explain I was deliberately replacing the word gypsy with
How abut 'turn back jack' for 5 dancers - no couples - it is a little tricky
but fun
Mac McKeever
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To: callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Callers]
The Weevil (line of 4 facing line of 3)
The Weaving Way (Square inside another square)
Square 5 (a square with another couple in it)
Square 6 (a square with two other couples in it)
Dummer Reel (5 people in a circle)
Horse’s Bransle (8 people in a horseshoe shape)
Cornish 6 Hand Reel (3
Hi Donna,
There's a lively circle mixer (from England, I believe) called Nervous
Breakdown, with a balance and swing each time thru. I can send it to you if
you're not familiar with it. I think people at HftH would enjoy it.
I second the recommendations for Levi Jackson Rag and Walpole
Thanks everyone for great ideas.
It was late when I posted my request and I should mention that this is an
English/Contra crossover weekend (Princeton Country Dancers Head for the
Hills).
I'm definitely looking for dances that don't fit a genre and appeal to contra
dancers (ie swings and
You could try a couple of my dances:
Rubigold - 5 couples in a horseshoe -
http://keith-wood.name/mydances.html#Rubigold
Crossroads - 5 people in a diamond -
http://keith-wood.name/mydances.html#Crossroads
Cheers
Keith
Hi
I'm doing a workshop on dances "outside the box" (ie, no
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