[Callers] The ongoing gypsy discussion

2015-11-01 Thread Kalia Kliban via Callers
Just out of curiosity, since I had a gig scheduled while this discussion was going on, I tried substituting the phrase "right/left shoulders around" for "gypsy." I had not taught the move in the beginners session. The first dance this came up in had a neighbors gypsy 1-1/2. I said "neighbors

Re: [Callers] Gypsy / "Redneck"

2015-11-01 Thread Gary Shapiro via Callers
They spell it with the y. www.gypsy-association.co.uk On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 12:30 PM, John Meechan via Callers callers-at-lists.sharedweight.net |sharedweight-garyes| < lc5ghe4...@sneakemail.com> wrote: > We’ve had very few opinions, other than heresay, about gipsies in the UK. > I have never

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Leslie Gotfrit via Callers
Here is is one people have a lot of fun with and it's a scatter set that has a gypsy (which you can debate replacing with one of the many discussed alternatives.) Accretion Reel by Chris Page (I'm very loose about numbers in a group. ) Groups of four (or 5 or 6 or whatever) A1 balance the

Re: [Callers] Gypsy perception

2015-11-01 Thread Tom Hinds via Callers
No Aahz my logic is broken. Our perceptions and experiences are different. You said, The question isn't whether using "gypsy" generates negative stereotypes but whether using the word reminds people of existing negative stereotypes and whether the people referred to by the word have

Re: [Callers] Gypsy / "Redneck"/honky

2015-11-01 Thread Jeremy Gmail via Callers
Tom Did you mean "self-deprecating" instead of "self-defecating"? Or did you really mean to sh*t on yourself? Or is this an American usage I'm unaware of? (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Jeremy From: Callers [mailto:callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Tom Hinds via

Re: [Callers] Gypsy

2015-11-01 Thread Aahz Maruch via Callers
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, Tom Hinds via Callers wrote: > > I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY WANT TO KNOW, who on this list believe that > contra dancers have a negative view of the Romani people because of > the word gypsy? Anyone? You've got broken logic. The question isn't whether using "gypsy"

Re: [Callers] Gypsy

2015-11-01 Thread John Sweeney via Callers
Hi Janet, I agree entirely re "gypsy"! But, please, not "Homo Sapien"! "Homo Sapiens" is the singular. The "s" on the end does not indicate plural. You can't take it off to make it singular. The plural is "Homines Sapientes". It hurts when I hear

Re: [Callers] Gypsy / "Redneck"

2015-11-01 Thread Read Weaver via Callers
In the season premiere of the U.S. tv show "Black-ish,” in an episode that tackles who can use what racial slurs, “negro” comes up and causes offense to Black characters. The following exchange occurs, between the protagonist’s consistently racist boss and the protagonist: “Well, in that case,

Re: [Callers] Gypsy / "Redneck"/honky

2015-11-01 Thread Lindsay Morris via Callers
Tom, my estimation of you has risen even higher! > On Nov 1, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers > wrote: > > When this discussion started I decided to actually use honky instead of gypsy > the next time I called. I would of course explain to the dancers

Re: [Callers] Gypsy / "Redneck"

2015-11-01 Thread Jeff Kaufman via Callers
On Nov 1, 2015 3:30 PM, "John Meechan via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > I have never heard the term gipsy used as a pejorative for Romany gipsies, in fact their national body is called the Gipsy Council. > That might just mean it's an old organization. In the US the NAACP

Re: [Callers] Gypsy / "Redneck"/honky

2015-11-01 Thread Ron Blechner via Callers
Tom, I find it humorous that we both had the same thought experiment. I read "honky" as less offensive than "redneck", but that may be subjective and/or semantic. To be very plain: The image we conjure up of a "gypsy" is a stereotype. "Gypsy" for many invokes images of coin hip scarves and

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread James Saxe via Callers
Another dance I haven't seen mentioned yet in this thread is the six-couple circle dance "Thread the Needle", not to be confused with various other, very different dances also titled "Thread the Needle". Here's a description: Thread the Needle Circle of six couples, numbered (in ccw

Re: [Callers] Gypsy / "Redneck"/honky

2015-11-01 Thread Tom Hinds via Callers
When this discussion started I decided to actually use honky instead of gypsy the next time I called. I would of course explain to the dancers this extremely important and delicate issue that is now confronting the contra dance community. Why not get a chuckle from the floor? I

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread David Harding via Callers
If the group can tolerate a little chaos, there is no reason to limit the sets to three couples. The first time through everyone in a set with an odd number of couples gets a new partner in the same gender role, but in a set with an even number everyone gets a new partner of the same gender.

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread James Saxe via Callers
A dance I don't think anyone has mentioned yet is "Pride of Dingle" (originally "Pride of Pingle") by Ken Alexander. You can find various slightly differing versions here: http://www.izaak.unh.edu/dlp/NorthernJunket/pages/NJv14/NJv14-02/NJv.14.02.p24.htm

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread James Saxe via Callers
Jacob Bloom mentioned this dance: > Borrowdale Exchange - Scatter mixer > Formation: three couples in circle > > Circle left, Circle right > Forward and Back, partner dosido > Hands-across right hand star. Starting with the two people whose hands are > lowest, each pair pulls their partner to

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Jacob or Nancy Bloom via Callers
Here's some of the dances I've done which haven't already been mentioned. Set a Crochet - Traditional French Canadian Couples scatter on floor, then find another couple As couples, hook left elbows and turn Circle left Swing Neighbor, Swing Partner Borrowdale Exchange - Scatter mixer

Re: [Callers] Gypsy / "Redneck"

2015-11-01 Thread John Meechan via Callers
We’ve had very few opinions, other than heresay, about gipsies in the UK. I have never heard the term gipsy used as a pejorative for Romany gipsies, in fact their national body is called the Gipsy Council. www.gipsy-association.co.uk John Meechan Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ron

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Jacob or Nancy Bloom via Callers
I've found You Married My Daughter But Yet You Didn't to be a good alternative tune for Levi Jackson Rag. Jacob On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Bree Kalb via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Levi Jackson Rag is a favorite of mine but not all bands know the tune. > >

Re: [Callers] Gypsy / "Redneck"

2015-11-01 Thread Ron Blechner via Callers
"who on this list believe that contra dancers have a negative view of the Romani people because of the word gypsy?" Over the last few days, as this conversation has spilled out onto a few forms of social media, I have now heard specific stories about people who are Roma and/or have Roma heritage

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Liz and Bill via Callers
Hi David and all, Those links are part of a playlist with a few more dances for five to seven which weve done here at our NZ house dance. http://youtu.be/iW8fjgZV2Jk?list=PLFp1up9ZoGxhevcz7leTScc1XfgpjOF2Q Cheers, Bill > On 2/11/2015, at 6:54, David Harding via Callers >

[Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Playford1651 via Callers
You could try the contra modified version of Wendy Crouch's Winter Solstice (square with an extra couple). Renamed Swinging Solstice for the other side of the Pond. Features a grand square for 5 couples! Progression is clockwise. Although they do not feature swings she has Silver Thread ( 3

[Callers] Fwd: Itty-bitty dances, triplets, odd numbers

2015-11-01 Thread Paul Wilde via Callers
Donna, Here are the figures for the three suggestions I sent. David's Triplet # 5 (David Smuckler). It has a lovely hey for 6 w/ a P Gyre & Swing to finish. A-1 1s cast to bottom, ret up inside and cast around w/ same gender 2s All face P, dsd 1 1/4 to wavy line of 6, P in RH A-2 Bal

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Aahz Maruch via Callers
On Sun, Nov 01, 2015, Donna Hunt via Callers wrote: > > I'm doing a workshop on dances "outside the box" (ie, no squares or contras). > Anyone have any interesting dances for contra dancers that fit the criteria? Levi Jackson Rag would've been my first suggestion. I only skimmed the thread,

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread David Harding via Callers
After finding The Weevil (4 facing 3) on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM1vr2-QK_Q I stumbled on a 3 facing 2 dance "inspired by 'The Weevil'" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GAAf-9unRg At Squirrel Moon this September Carol Ormand did an enjoyable workshop on this theme. I don't

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Martha Wild via Callers
Levi Jackson can be done perfectly well to other tunes, though of course it is best with it's own tune. Ragtime Annie (A and B parts only) is a nice compromise that some bands know. Martha On Nov 1, 2015, at 4:17 AM, Bree Kalb via Callers wrote: > Levi Jackson Rag is a favorite of mine but not

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Don Veino via Callers
Chris' dance "Happy Ending", it's in the video description text if you expand it. On Nov 1, 2015 12:37 PM, "Kalia Kliban via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > > > > This video has the tune being used for a contra: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp_pKOpn0mA > > Chris

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Kalia Kliban via Callers
On 11/1/2015 5:12 AM, Donna Hunt via Callers wrote: Thanks everyone for great ideas. It was late when I posted my request and I should mention that this is an English/Contra crossover weekend (Princeton Country Dancers Head for the Hills). I'm definitely looking for dances that don't fit a

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Karin Neils via Callers
The Weevil is a great dance - - see it on You Tube. Karin On 11/1/15 8:38 AM, Jeremy Gmail via Callers wrote: The Weevil (line of 4 facing line of 3) The Weaving Way (Square inside another square) Square 5 (a square with another couple in it) Square 6 (a square with two other couples in it)

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-11-01 Thread Luke Donforth via Callers
Hello all, I had the pleasure of calling last night, to a mostly experienced crowd of dancers (although I didn't recognize everyone in their costumes). The third dance of the evening was the first one with a gypsy; and I took 30 seconds to explain I was deliberately replacing the word gypsy with

[Callers] Fw: dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Mac Mckeever via Callers
How abut 'turn back jack'  for 5 dancers - no couples - it is a little tricky but fun Mac McKeever - Forwarded Message - From: Keith Wood via Callers To: callers@lists.sharedweight.net Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:35 AM Subject: Re: [Callers]

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Jeremy Gmail via Callers
The Weevil (line of 4 facing line of 3) The Weaving Way (Square inside another square) Square 5 (a square with another couple in it) Square 6 (a square with two other couples in it) Dummer Reel (5 people in a circle) Horse’s Bransle (8 people in a horseshoe shape) Cornish 6 Hand Reel (3

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Richard Fischer via Callers
Hi Donna, There's a lively circle mixer (from England, I believe) called Nervous Breakdown, with a balance and swing each time thru. I can send it to you if you're not familiar with it. I think people at HftH would enjoy it. I second the recommendations for Levi Jackson Rag and Walpole

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Donna Hunt via Callers
Thanks everyone for great ideas. It was late when I posted my request and I should mention that this is an English/Contra crossover weekend (Princeton Country Dancers Head for the Hills). I'm definitely looking for dances that don't fit a genre and appeal to contra dancers (ie swings and

Re: [Callers] dances in unusual formations

2015-11-01 Thread Keith Wood via Callers
You could try a couple of my dances: Rubigold - 5 couples in a horseshoe - http://keith-wood.name/mydances.html#Rubigold Crossroads - 5 people in a diamond - http://keith-wood.name/mydances.html#Crossroads Cheers Keith Hi I'm doing a workshop on dances "outside the box" (ie, no