Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-10 Thread Jeff Kaufman
Jeff Kaufman wrote: > Chrissy Fowler wrote: > > > > I am curious about the phenomenon that Jeff refers to in this > > sentence. I've never danced at, or called, or even heard about a > > dance where the caller could "just wait for people to get into > > position." > > Sorry, you're right. I was

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-07 Thread Don Veino
If by partner interaction you mean touching then I'd agree with you. If by visual connection then there's a lot of it. But not just partner - in this area the R&Ls for MM are done the old style (or what I'm told is the old style): pull by with hands and then do a parallel/tandem CT shoulder to shou

[Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-07 Thread Donald Perley
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Don Veino > wrote: > My wife was originally not fond of > Money Musk, until she got a chance to dance it with a great partner at > Ralph Page/UNH and "got it". Interesting... I like Money Musk, but of all the dances I know it is among the least for partner interact

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-07 Thread Don Veino
I feel lucky that in our area these dances are occasionally part of a standard "social dance" program (from whence they originally came). While I can no longer claim to be a new dancer, when I was one I got exposed to these dances and it opened my dance horizons, enough so that I wanted to seek out

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-07 Thread Greg McKenzie
Dave wrote: > Sure, there are times at festivals where callers might program a > particular theme and > discuss dance history, or experienced dances where callers might teach > complex dance figures, but these are not the open, public dances that > you're talking about. > I'm glad we are in agre

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-07 Thread Dave Casserly
Greg, Your comments seem to be a bit of a non sequitur-- I'm not sure that I've ever heard a caller give "lectures" or talk about what a person who wrote a dance said once when calling dances. Sure, there are times at festivals where callers might program a particular theme and discuss dance hist

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-07 Thread Brian Hamshar
Very well put, Greg. Thank you! Brian Hamshar Virginia Greg McKenzie wrote: >David wrote: > >> As as a long-time New England caller, I admit to a special fondness for >> the so-called chestnuts, most of which are in proper formation; I think >> that dancers can appreciate having these in their

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-07 Thread Greg McKenzie
David wrote: > As as a long-time New England caller, I admit to a special fondness for > the so-called chestnuts, most of which are in proper formation; I think > that dancers can appreciate having these in their repertoire as a > connection to the long traditions of music and dance we inherit, an

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-07 Thread Bob Isaacs
t: Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it > > --- Martha wrote: > This is probably a regional or specific community thing. In our village, St > Louis, > Missouri, we just line up improper > --- end of quote --- > > I'd agree that what

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-07 Thread David Millstone
--- Martha wrote: This is probably a regional or specific community thing. In our village, St Louis, Missouri, we just line up improper --- end of quote --- I'd agree that what Martha describes is increasingly the norm, especially in relatively new series and outside of New England. There ar

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-07 Thread Martha Edwards
for > > people to get into position. They told all the couples to stand with > > the ladies in one line and the gents in another, to take hands for > > from the top, and that this was proper formation. Then they introduced > > 1s and 2s and had all the ones cross over.

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-06 Thread Jeff Kaufman
Chrissy Fowler wrote: > > > I was at a dance recently where the caller noticed that there were > > many new dancers and that it probably wouldn't work to just wait for > > people to get into position. > > I am curious about the phenomenon that Jeff refers to in this > sentence. I've never danced

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-06 Thread Chrissy Fowler
t teach proper formation unless you need it > (95s...@comcast.net) >5. Re: Don't teach proper formation unless you need it (Jeff Kaufman) >6. Re: Don't teach proper formation unless you need it (Linda Leslie) > > > ------------------

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-05 Thread Linda Leslie
ay 04, 2012 2:32 PM To: Caller's discussion list Subject: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it Contra dancing has almost entirely lost the 'proper' formation, with gents in one line and ladies in another. For most of contra dancing's history, howeve

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-05 Thread Mark Hillegonds
net [mailto:callers-boun...@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Kaufman Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:32 PM To: Caller's discussion list Subject: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it Contra dancing has almost entirely lost the 'proper' formation, with gents in

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-04 Thread Linda Leslie
on list" Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 2:32:09 PM Subject: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it Contra dancing has almost entirely lost the 'proper' formation, with gents in one line and ladies in another. For most of contra dancing's history, however, that w

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-04 Thread Jeff Kaufman
Charles Hannum wrote: > > If nobody teaches it, then when someone does call one, half the > people in the hall will be starting at the stage like deer in > headlights. > I would say that if a caller wants to do something uncommon they should be prepared to teach it to the people who haven't seen

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-04 Thread 95sg23
2012 2:32:09 PM Subject: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it Contra dancing has almost entirely lost the 'proper' formation, with gents in one line and ladies in another. For most of contra dancing's history, however, that was the standard formation and

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-04 Thread Charles Hannum
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jeff Kaufman wrote: > I was at a dance recently where the caller noticed that there were > many new dancers and that it probably wouldn't work to just wait for > people to get into position. They told all the couples to stand with > the ladies in one line and the ge

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-04 Thread George Mercer
Good point. I agree. Thanks, George On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jeff Kaufman wrote: > Contra dancing has almost entirely lost the 'proper' formation, with > gents in one line and ladies in another. For most of contra dancing's > history, however, that was the standard formation and many peo

[Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

2012-05-04 Thread Jeff Kaufman
Contra dancing has almost entirely lost the 'proper' formation, with gents in one line and ladies in another. For most of contra dancing's history, however, that was the standard formation and many people, especially callers, still think of it that way. I was at a dance recently where the caller n