Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-16 Thread Luke Donforth via Callers
Thanks all, for the factors you eloquently put into words :-) Read, I think you're right that contra dancers are more familiar with it; and that will help too. The proof is in the pudding though; or the dancing as the case may be. I'd say get three friends and see what the two stars feel like; and

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-16 Thread Jeremy Child via Callers
It's also much more stable as a formation, having four points of contact with the floor rather than two. Hence you're using less effort to keep it stable and more goes into turning it round. On 16 April 2018 at 05:53, Bob Green via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > ...and the ra

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-15 Thread Bob Green via Callers
...and the radius of the circle is smaller. Bob Green Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-15 Thread Yoyo Zhou via Callers
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:43 AM, Read Weaver via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I don’t understand this—since you can’t comfortably give weight in the > mill-grip (and you can in hands-across), why does it get you around faster? > Just because people are more used to it? > In

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-15 Thread Read Weaver via Callers
I don’t understand this—since you can’t comfortably give weight in the mill-grip (and you can in hands-across), why does it get you around faster? Just because people are more used to it? > On Apr 14, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers > wrote: > > Tamlin's Cross (variation) > ... >

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-14 Thread Luke Donforth via Callers
Last night I ran a version of Tamlin's Cross at the local monthly dance. Many dancers found it challenging, but folks seemed to enjoy it. The version I ran: Tamlin's Cross (variation) 4x4 A1 (4) All 8 go into the middle (4) Ladies roll partners away on the way out (8) Corner Swing, square set A2

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-10 Thread Dugan Murphy via Callers
I agree that changing the rollaway so ladies roll their partners away left-to-right fixes the issue I raised in A1 of "Tamlin's Cross." I think it would be a fun variation on the rollaway-swing transition, which, in my experience, is always done with gents rolling ladies away. Dugan Murphy Portla

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-10 Thread Luke Donforth via Callers
es I listed. > > Thank you for your innovations and I look forward to seeing more! > > Dugan Murphy > Portland, Maine > dugan at duganmurphy.com > www.DuganMurphy.com > www.PortlandIntownContraDance.com > > >> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 12:16:42 -0400 >> From: Luke Donfor

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-08 Thread Dugan Murphy via Callers
listed. Thank you for your innovations and I look forward to seeing more! Dugan Murphy Portland, Maine dugan at duganmurphy.com www.DuganMurphy.com www.PortlandIntownContraDance.com > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 12:16:42 -0400 > From: Luke Donforth > Subject: Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 cont

[Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-04 Thread John Sweeney via Callers
I picked up a Square Dance break from somewhere that was called the Dixie Chain Break: Dixie Chain Break: Heads Hey for Four with hands – Ladies lead with Right Hand Sides the same Heads and Sides do simultaneous Heys – when four are in the middle they do a Hands Across Star (Ladies Star, Pull the

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-04 Thread Cara Sawyer via Callers
Thanks for starting this strain, Luke, and for your dance. Our Jo Mortland here in Chicago recently organized a Dutch Crossing workshop, and we did a successful demo at our Monday night dance. Lisa's video certainly helped us out a lot! Somewhere on the internet ours is floating around also...and

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-04 Thread Colin Hume via Callers
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:09:58 + (UTC), Mac Mckeever via Callers wrote: > I have called hey mania several times and it is not hard to stay with the > phrasing - as long as you use the swing > after the heys to let everyone catch up I agree with that - and I add a promenade after the final partne

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-04 Thread Mac Mckeever via Callers
I have called hey mania several times and it is not hard to stay with the phrasing - as long as you use the swing after the heys to let everyone catch up Mac McKeever On Wednesday, April 4, 2018, 11:17:08 AM CDT, Luke Donforth via Callers wrote: Thanks all for the feedback! I'll reac

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-04 Thread Luke Donforth via Callers
Thanks all for the feedback! I'll reach out to Erik and Nils. As Rick pointed out, the dance could work from standard 4x4 lines; and I certainly wouldn't object to folks dancing it that way. In my head, the half grand hey precludes this from many dance events, so I figured dancers I could toss thi

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-04 Thread Chris Page via Callers
Having tested something like this a decade ago, I can report from painful experience that the half hey takes about 12 beats, not 8. "Harvest Hey" by Erik Hoffman gets the timing right. -Chris Page San Diego On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:04 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers wrote: > Hello all, > > I was

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-04 Thread Colin Hume via Callers
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 22:27:19 -0400, Luke Donforth wrote: > I'd appreciate feedback on flow (would it work), timing (is it too much?) and > how you'd teach it. I think the "Bent 4x4" is an unnecessary complication. People expect to finish the figure facing the next line, not facing into the cent

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-03 Thread jim saxe via Callers
Luke, You wrote: > I'm especially curious if something similar exists in the square dance > repertoire; specifically the figure used in B1 Ron Buchanan's dance "Heymania" http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/acdol/dance/acd_210.html includes interlocking heys similar to the your "all 8 half

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-03 Thread Cara Sawyer via Callers
Well, actually, that half a LH star in the middle is how Dutch Crossing handles crossing heys. Here's Lisa Greenleaf calling it. It took a group of experienced dancers the better part of two hours to get it, but it was REALLY FUN once we did. Not sure a

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-03 Thread Rick Mohr via Callers
Nice idea. I've seen figures like the "hey through" in morris dances, and I wouldn't be surprised if Scottish and English dances have a similar idea. I think passing through the middle (with half of a left hand star) would tend to take 4 beats rather than 2, so the figure would take 10 beats rathe

Re: [Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-03 Thread Mac Mckeever via Callers
that looks like pretty challenging timing in B1 - you might want to eliminate the balance in B2 and just let everyone sing whent they get there That X formation will be unfamiliar and hard to recreate at the end of B2 Mac On Tuesday, April 3, 2018, 8:04:49 PM CDT, Luke Donforth via Callers

[Callers] New (?) 4x4 contra

2018-04-03 Thread Luke Donforth via Callers
Hello all, I was playing around with a new (?) composition; and since it's a 4x4, it's unlikely I'll get a house-party together to test it any time soon. I'd appreciate feedback on flow (would it work), timing (is it too much?) and how you'd teach it. I'm especially curious if something similar ex