I wouldn’t go so far as saying network neutrality is dead, but the reclassification of information service as a Title-II service may well be reversed.
Mark > On Feb 26, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote: > > debbie, you forgot to mention this one which was buried in the article: > https://www.freepress.net/press-release/2010/9/23/activists-tell-fcc-don%E2%80%99t-waffle-net-neutrality > > <https://www.freepress.net/press-release/2010/9/23/activists-tell-fcc-don%E2%80%99t-waffle-net-neutrality> > I think net-neutrality is a lost cause with an anti-net-neutrality board. > Last thing I have time for is protesting asshats! but guess I'll have to > > Jan V > > > On 02/26/2017 12:17 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> Well OK, Debbie Downer, you might have a point. >> >> And probably FCC politics are not so much Republican vs Democrat, but rather >> which lobbyists bring the best cupcakes. >> https://www.attpublicpolicy.com/fcc/cupcakegate/ >> <https://www.attpublicpolicy.com/fcc/cupcakegate/> >> >> <> >> From: cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org >> <mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org> >> [mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org >> <mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh >> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 1:55 PM >> To: Cambium Networks User Group <cambium-users@wispa.org> >> <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [Cambium-users] Huffington Post Article on Rural Connectivity >> >> I'm not convinced that we should not be worried about the next 4 years. >> Early signs from the chairman are somewhat scary. Gigabit Empowerment, >> rural parity with urban consumers, broadband everywhere have all been >> mentioned. The recent vote on weighting for CAF-II reverse auction voted to >> weight 100Mb/Gigabit far higher than 25/3. Not at all a good sign. >> >> Our republican chairman is sounding a whole lot like a big spending, big >> telco democrat ready to throw money at broadband. >> >> Mark Radabaugh >> Amplex >> 22690 Pemberville Rd >> Luckey, OH 43447 >> 419-261-5996 >> >> On Feb 26, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com >> <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote: >> >> I can see an argument to be made that basic Internet connectivity is >> essentially mandated for some portion of the population by schools, >> government, employers, etc. >> >> I have customers whose kids can’t do their schoolwork without Internet. >> Last week Ameren’s new smartmeters knocked a 900 MHz customer offline and >> her daughter had to do a Skype interview as part of college application, >> ended up burning through their cellular data plan but got it to work. >> Government wants to make it difficult to apply for things like Social >> Security, Medicare, or health insurance by phone or in person, they want you >> to do it online. I think that’s something they should be required to >> review, are they excluding low income people or seniors or people in rural >> areas by mandating interaction via Internet. Same with employers, have you >> tried to find or apply for a job lately without an Internet connection? >> >> Internet is replacing phones as a required method of communication. But >> also let’s be honest, most of these things can be (and are) done on >> smartphones. Although editing a resume or filling out a government form may >> be a lot easier on an actual computer. >> >> The word “broadband” is problematic in this context. Government regulators, >> tech media, telecom companies, etc. want a first-world definition of what >> kind of Internet is a “basic human need”. Flying coach isn’t good enough, >> everyone needs access to first class. Driving a used Toyota may be totally >> adequate to get you to work and the store and take the kids to school, but >> if some people have Teslas and Ferraris, then everyone must have them. >> >> It’s amazing how fast 25M/4M went from an aspirational and futuristic >> definition of “advanced broadband” to the minimum acceptable level, soon to >> be replaced with 100M or gigabit. And yes, 25M is an appropriate definition >> of “broadband” if the objective is to cancel your satellite or cable TV and >> watch HD video on 3-4 screens simultaneously, as well as download 50 GB >> games to your Xbox in minutes not hours or days. But 4M/1M will suffice for >> all those other basic non-entertainment human needs. >> >> The word “broadband” has no real meaning for most people. Maybe we need 2 >> or 3 terms along the lines of what the airline industry has – coach, >> business, first class. Maybe a case can be made that everyone should have >> access to affordable “basic Internet” that would let you do all those work, >> school and government things. The next level up would let you do those plus >> watch a Netflix movie. For even more money, you can watch multiple video >> streams in HD or 4K resolution. But that’s about entertainment, >> convenience, and saving money by cancelling your $150/month satellite or >> cable TV subscription. It’s not about basic human needs. >> >> At some point in the future, there may be a turning point, if they manage to >> make all forms of broadcast TV (OTA, cable, satellite) go away and now >> everything is on-demand and OTT. I don’t mind telling the little old lady >> on Social Security renting a dilapidated house in the country that she >> doesn’t need Netflix, because she can use an OTA antenna, or get the >> cheapest package from DISH or DirecTV. But if all those options go away, as >> the government auctions off all the TV spectrum, and DISH and DirecTV switch >> models to OTT streaming, can you tell retired people on fixed incomes that >> they can’t even watch network TV anymore unless they have “broadband”? But >> that’s a future problem, we’re not there yet. And if the government is >> really intent on making everything IP based, maybe they do need to structure >> the pricing so everyone can still get phone service and watch TV and listen >> to the radio. I worried about that with Wheeler at the head of the FCC. I >> don’t think we have to worry about it for at least 4 years now. >> >> From: cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org >> <mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org> >> [mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org >> <mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie >> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 12:55 PM >> To: Cambium Networks User Group <cambium-users@wispa.org >> <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Cambium-users] Huffington Post Article on Rural Connectivity >> >> You can argue a lot for broadband connectivity, but it is absolutely NOT a >> basic human need. >> >> On Friday, February 24, 2017, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com >> <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> “It is no exaggeration that broadband connectivity is now a basic human >> need,” says Atul Bhatnagar, Cambium Networks President and CEO. = code speak >> for more gov money (aka your tax dollars)... >> >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Ray Savich via Cambium-users < >> <>cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>> wrote: >> Cyber Broadcast and Cambium Networks connect a town and bridges the digital >> divide. This article is published in the Huffington Post. >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-a-small-town-in-illinois-is-bridging-the-digital_us_58b048f3e4b0658fc20f9416 >> >> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-a-small-town-in-illinois-is-bridging-the-digital_us_58b048f3e4b0658fc20f9416> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cambium-users mailing list >> <>Cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:Cambium-users@wispa.org> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/cambium-users >> <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/cambium-users> >> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> _______________________________________________ >> Cambium-users mailing list >> Cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:Cambium-users@wispa.org> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/cambium-users >> <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/cambium-users> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cambium-users mailing list >> Cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:Cambium-users@wispa.org> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/cambium-users >> <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/cambium-users> > > _______________________________________________ > Cambium-users mailing list > Cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:Cambium-users@wispa.org> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/cambium-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/cambium-users>
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