The Cambodian 
grandmother who killed three family members before turning the gun on herself a 
week ago.
Wednesday, September 29, 2010
By Lynn 
Thompson
Seattle 
Times staff 
reporter

The Cambodian grandmother who killed three family 
members before turning the gun on herself a week ago wore the eerie expression 
of a "smiley face" as she stalked relatives through their West Seattle home, 
her 
daughter recalls.

Thyda Luellen Phan, who was shot twice but survived, 
said that her 60-year-old mother could barely walk, but during the deadly 
rampage, "was running so quick nobody can stop her."
SORRY ,THIS WOMAN IS NOT CAMBODIAN, RATHER SHE IS A VIETNAMESE COMING TO 
AMERICA UNDER THE FALSE DOCUMENTATION UNDER THE FAKE CAMBODIAN NAME & ID ISSUED 
BY THE VIETNAMESE FORCES OF OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA CALLED THE CPP GOVERNMENT OF 
HUN SEN (1979-2010).
AMERICAN PEOPLE ,FBI , IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS ARE IGNORANT ABOUT THESE  CRIMINAL 
ACTIVITIES OF THE VIETNAMESE CPP POLICE FROM  HOK LUNDI ERA , NETH SAVEUN , SAR 
KHENG  POLICE, AND THE CPP FOREIGN MINISTRY OF  THE HOR NAM HONG, RELATED TO 
THE SILENCE IMMIGRATION OF THE VIETNAMESE FROM CAMBODIA  THROUGH THE SO CALLED 
"KAMPUCHEAN" PEOPLE .AMERICAN AUTHORITIES DID NOT REALIZE THESE CRIMES .

FROM 1993-2010 THE VIETNAMESE ADMINISTRATORS FROM CAMBODIA,  HAVE SENT MORE 
THAN 100 000 VIETNAMESE TO AMERICA UNDER THE FALSE DOCUMENTATION AS "CAMBODIAN" 
CITIZENS.THEY ARE NOT CAMBODIAN , BUT THE VIETNAMESE FROM CAMBODIA , UNDER THE 
FALSE DOUMENTS WITH FAKE NAME AND ID AS " CAMBODIAN" 

AS THE RESULTS , THE ORIGINAL POPULATION OF THE CAMBODIAN AMERICAN HAS 
INCREASED FROM 185 000 INDIVIDUALS IN 1975  TO 300 000 BY IN 2010. 
OVER 100 000 ARE MOSTLY VIETNAMESE FROM CAMBODIA CARRYING FALSE DOCUMENTATION 
UNDER THE FAKE "CAMBODIAN" NAMES AND ID .THEY LIVE  MOSTLY IN CALIFORNIA 
,OREGON, WASHINGTON STATE, MASSACHUSSETTE, PENNSYLVANIA  ,  TEXAS ,LOUISIANA-
CASE OF THE VIETNAMESE HOLDING FAKE PAPERS ,FAKE "CAMBODIAN" NAMES AND ID 
LIVING IN AMERICA TODAY. 
Thursday, September 30, 2010

Daughter 
who survived mother's fatal rampage recalls tragic day 







The Cambodian 
grandmother who killed three family members before turning the gun on herself a 
week ago wore the eerie expression of a "smiley face" as she stalked relatives 
through their West Seattle home, her daughter recalls.

Wednesday, September 29, 2010
By Lynn 
Thompson
Seattle 
Times staff 
reporter

The Cambodian grandmother who killed three family 
members before turning the gun on herself a week ago wore the eerie expression 
of a "smiley face" as she stalked relatives through their West Seattle home, 
her 
daughter recalls.

Thyda Luellen Phan, who was shot twice but survived, 
said that her 60-year-old mother could barely walk, but during the deadly 
rampage, "was running so quick nobody can stop her."

The only explanation 
the family could give for the killings was that Saroueun Sok was 
possessed.

"It wasn't her. I can tell from her face. It wasn't her," said 
Phan, 42.

Phan and about two dozen family members 
gathered at Khemarak Pothiram Buddhist Temple in Seattle's South Park 
neighborhood Tuesday evening for a prayer vigil. They have prayed daily since 
last Thursday's shootings and will continue until the funeral and cremation of 
the three victims and Sok on Saturday, family members said.

Three members 
of Phan's family — her husband Choeun Harm, 43, and two daughters, Jennifer 
Harm, 17, and Molina Phan, 14 — were killed. The three died of multiple gunshot 
wounds, according to the King County Medical Examiner's Office.

Sok died 
from a single gunshot wound to the head, the Medical Examiner's Office 
said.

Two of Phan's other children managed to escape from the home after 
Phan's mother opened fire.

Tuesday outside the temple, Phan, still in 
pain from the two gunshot wounds, recalled her mother's struggle with mental 
illness, the family's history in Cambodia and the day of the 
shootings.

She said her mother rarely spoke of her experiences in her 
native Cambodia, but Phan said that two of Sok's children died there, likely of 
starvation under the deadly Khmer Rouge regime. Sok's parents were also killed 
and she fled with her husband and surviving daughter.

The family spent 
almost five years in a Thai refugee camp and another year in the Philippines 
before being relocated to Philadelphia, where Phan met her husband and had 
their 
first child.

Phan and Harm separated for four years and she said she had 
three sons with a new husband in Seattle. But that marriage failed and her 
second husband won custody of the boys. Phan said her mother's mental illness 
began after Phan lost custody of her children.

"When my ex took the kids, 
she lost her memory. She sit and cry," she said.

Phan and Harm reunited 
and had five children together, she said.

Phan said her mother enjoyed 
the children, often spending time with them before bed, watching television and 
laughing as they sang to a karaoke machine.

Sok never got mad at her, she 
said.

A year ago, Sok was hospitalized for a month with symptoms of 
schizophrenia and depression, her daughter said. In the previous weeks, Sok 
told 
family members she could not tolerate colors, that she only wanted to see 
white. 
She began wearing all white, Phan said.

In the Buddhist religion, white 
is associated with purity. It is also the color family members wear to a 
funeral, she said.

When she was released from the hospital Sok's health 
seemed restored. "She went back to color," Phan said. Her mother and father 
moved in with the extended family.

At the end of August, the extended 
family was forced to move from their home in White Center to the three-bedroom 
home in West Seattle. Eleven members of the family lived on three floors. Phan 
said that her mother became upset that some of her possessions had been lost in 
the move. She thought the television was talking directly to her thoughts. She 
said that nobody liked her, that someone would try to kill her.

On the 
afternoon of the shooting, Phan, who worked the night shift at a nearby bowling 
alley and casino, had just awoken and showered. Her husband, Choeun, and her 
son, Kevin, 16, returned home from mowing lawns and were planning to go 
fishing.

Sok, dressed completely in white, came downstairs with a check 
for her son-in-law to take to the bank. Choeun teased his mother-in-law, Phan 
said, saying she should give the money to him. Then he turned to tie his 
shoes.

Sok pulled a handgun from her jacket pocket and shot him in the 
head.

Phan said she thought some fireworks had gone off. But Kevin then 
began screaming that his father was shot.

Phan ran to her mother and 
tried to grab the gun. Sok shot her through the shoulder, then took aim at 
Kevin 
and two younger sisters on the living-room couch, but missed. She tried to load 
another clip. When the gun jammed, Sok ran upstairs to retrieve another 
handgun.

A cousin said that before she opened fire, Sok told her to stay 
in an upstairs bedroom. The grandmother, speaking as though talking about a 
stranger, said, "someone has come to kill my daughter and kill her 
kids."

Downstairs, Phan and her older daughter, Jennifer, crowded around 
Choeun. Phan was on the phone to 911 when her mother returned and shot her and 
Jennifer. Sok was smiling, as if "she was playing a game," Phan 
said.

"She not even care. She [was] not even there. It was not her face 
at all."

Sok stalked the children into the basement. Several escaped 
through a window, but Sok circled the house and shot through a window, hitting 
Molina where she stood over Jennifer, who had collapsed on the floor.

At 
the hospital, Phan said she asked family members: "Where is Daddy? Where are 
Jennifer and Molina? Are they here at the hospital, too?" Until, finally, a 
social worker told her they had all been killed. She left the hospital after 
only a day, and family members have been dressing her wounds.

On Tuesday, 
at the temple, family members stroked Phan's arm and held her as she knelt at 
an 
altar on which incense and candles burned before photos of her mother, 
daughters 
and husband.

A family friend, Sean Phuong, said the family prayed and 
chanted for forgiveness for Sok, and for the release of the others' spirits 
from 
their bodies so they could be reborn into new lives. He said that in the 
Buddhist cycles of birth and death, someone who kills cannot be reborn as a 
human. But Phan said the others could return, perhaps even to their own family 
in the form of a new grandchild or nephew or niece.

"I hope they come 
back," she said.

Lynn 
Thompson: 206-464-8305 or lthomp...@seattletimes.com

HERE ARE THE FACTS :






CAMBODIA today 
remains  OCCUPIED BY  VIETNAM  1979-2010.
why ?
Because of this act .
Did 
anybody from the US foreign policy makers team listen to his 
?
President Bill 
Clinton announced the formal normalization of diplomatic relations 
with Vietnam on 
July 11, 1995. Subsequent to President Clinton's normalization announcement, in 
August 1995, both nations upgraded their Liaison Offices opened during January 
1995 to embassy status. As diplomatic ties between the nations grew.
While 
Vietnam continues to occupy Cambodia as of today despite these 10 UN 
resolutions 
?

THE CLINTONS  ARE  BECOMING  NOW THE ANTI KHMER PEOPLE TODAY BY THESE 
ACTS  



Strong Resolution on 
Cambodia Human Rights Abuses 
Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human 
Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a resolution condemning 
Vietnam’s occupation of Cambodia as a violation of Cambodian human 
rights. The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 
abstentions.

Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution 
A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a 
withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia.

10 UN 
RESOLUTIONS,(1979-1988) VOTED BY 116 UN MEMBER COUNTRIES ,CALL VIETNAM TO CEASE 
HER OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA & REMOVE ALL HER TROOPS FROM THE COUNTRY, ARE NOT 
RESPECTED AS OF TODAY.
THE VIETNAMESE TRICKS IN CAMBODIA OCCUPIED BY 
VIETNAM.
THE VIETNAMESE WEARING THE LABEL "CAMBODIAN" 







FAKE "CAMBODIAN" HEAD OF THE INTERPOL OF 
CAMBODIA



WHAT RIGHTS DO THESE VIETNAMESE INVADERS HAVE TO RUN CAMBODIA IN 
VIOLATION OF THE 10 UN 
RESOLUTION?

 WHO ARE HAPPY THEN ?
THE VIETNAMESE COMMUNISTS OCCUPIER OF CAMBODIA OF COURSE WITH 
THE BLESSING FROM  THE COMMUNIST DEMOCRAT PARTY IN US CONGRESS AND AT THE WHITE 
HOUSE.
 
A REMEMBERING :
THE COOPER -CHURCH AMENDMENT VOTED IN 
1970'S BY THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IN CONGRESS HAD RESULTED:
 
1. THE 
DESTRUCTION OF THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE GOVT CREATED BY THE DEMOCRAT PARTY DURING 
THE 1950'S , THE CREATURE THAT CONSIDERED AS ALLIED OF AMERICA. IT  FOLLOWED BY 
 
THE FUTILE & CRUEL  MURDER OF THE NGO DINH DIEM FAMILY.... 
2. THE 
ABANDONMENT OF  CAMBODIA OF LON NOL , TO THE COMMUNISTS WITH MILLION OF 
CAMBODIAN DEAD.
3. THE COMMUNIST TAKE OVER OF THE ENTIRE VIETNAM.,COOKED BY 
THE COMMUNIST AGENTS WITHIN THE US GOVERNMENT.
 
REVEALING THAT THE 
DEMOCRAT PARTY IS PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNIST REGIME AROUND THE WORLD EVER SINCE 
 .
 
THIS DUPLICITY AND BETRAYAL AMONG THE US DIPLOMAT PRO COMMUNISTS WHO 
HAD LED TO THE  ABANDONMENT OF CAMBODIA TO THE COMMUNIST, THIS SHAMEFUL DEBACLE 
LIKE THIS :  UNPLANNED ESCAPE FOR THE US AMBASSADOR, MR JOHN GUNTHER DEAN.
HE 
HAD  TO ESCAPE FROM THE ROOF TOP OF THE US EMBASSY BUILDING FROM PHNOM PENH IN 
1975 LIKE A THIEF.
 
THOSE US FOREIGN POLICY MAKERS OF THOSE DAYS , ARE 
SHOWN AROUND PRESIDENT OBAMA TODAY.
IT PRODUCES THE SAME CRIMINAL RESULTS ET 
VOILA WE HAVE AN  ATMOSTPHER OF GENERAL MALAISE THAT HANGS ACROSS AMERICAN SKY 
AT THIS HOURS:
 
ANGER, DEPRESSION , FRUSTRATION,BETRAYAL , PLAGUE ACROSS 
AMERICA , UNDER THE US SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT PARTY &  
AMERICAN 
GOVT . 
 
WHY ?
BECAUSE THEY ARE DISMANTLING AMERICA SINCE THE DAY OF 
PRESIDENT WILSON -OBAMA .
IT'S SO SAD. 
 
THE RESULTS ? 

REMEMBER THE SETTLEMENT OF VIETNAM IN 
1970'S ?

THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER DR HENRY KISSING LEGACY , WITH HIS 
SECRET NOGOTIATION WITH THE NORTH VIETNAM,  

1  BY ABANDONING THE SOUTH 
VIETNAM , THE US ALLIED?

2  BY ABANDONMENT CAMBODIA TO THE COMMUNISTS 
AND  THAT HAD LED THE US AMBASSADOR JOHN GUNTHER DEAN ESCAPED FROM THE ROOF TOP 
OF THE US EMBASSY BUILDING IN CAMBODIA , LIKE A THIEF IN 1975 , FROM PHNOM 
PENH.?

WE SEE THE SHADOW OF DR KISSINGER , BRZEZINSKI AND OTHER, THE SAME 
TEAM  AROUND  PRESIDENT OBAMA AGAIN.


 
IN 
CAMBODIA OCCUPIED BY  VIETNAM  1979-2010.
HAPPY 
ARE THOSE VIETNAMESE APPOINTED AS FAKE "CAMBODIAN" 



You Ay (Vietnamese woman ) appointed as 
"Cambodian" Ambassador) back in Bangkok 



 


FAKE 
"Cambodian" Ambassador to Thailand You Ay(A 
VIETNAMESE WOMAN" arrives in Bangkok yesterday to 
resume her post after her Thai 
counterpart, Prasas Prasasvinitchai, returned to his post in Phnom Penh on 
Tuesday. Thailand and Cambodia normalised ties after former premier Thaksin 
Shinawatra resigned as an adviserto Hun Sen on Monday. (Photo: The 
Nation)
  Strong Resolution on Cambodia Human 
Rights Abuses 
Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human 
Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a resolution condemning 
Vietnam’s occupation of Cambodia as a violation of Cambodian human rights. 
The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 
abstentions.
 
Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution 
A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a 
withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia.
 
10 UN 
RESOLUTIONS,(1979-1988) VOTED BY 116 UN MEMBER COUNTRIES ,CALL VIETNAM TO CEASE 
HER OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA & REMOVE ALL HER TROOPS FROM THE COUNTRY, ARE NOT 
RESPECTED AS OF TODAY. 
 
President Reagan's address to the 43d Session of 
the United Nations General Assembly in New York, New York,September 26, 1988. 

"Mr. Secretary-General, there are new hopes for Cambodia, a nation whose 
freedom and independence we seek just as avidly as we sought the freedom and 
independence of Afghanistan. We urge the rapid removal of 
all Vietnamese troops ...." 
 
As of today,Cambodia is still 
occupied by the Vietnamese troops despite the call from the US president to 
Vietnam to cease her occupation of Cambodia since 1988. 
Cambodia needs Independence from 
Vietnam and the Vietnamese invaders.
Vietnam must cease her occupation of Cambodia at 
once.

BURY 


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> Subject: Re: Prosecution for an old crime puts Cambodian refugee at risk
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> The law is the law.
                                          

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