Re: [Cameramakers] lens design reading?

2003-02-01 Thread Samuel Tang
Hi Philip, I haven't read that article, but from your description it sure looks like someone was trying to do something as suggested in LP Clerc's Photography: Theory and Practice, Book I Fundamentals: Light, Image, Optics, as revised by LA Mannheim and edited by DA Spencer (Focal Press1970). Som

Re: [Cameramakers] lens design reading?

2003-02-01 Thread Philip willarney
I read that article -- in brief, the author took a couple of off-the-shelf screw-on closeup lense, put them in a tube (back to back, "front" of each lens facing out of the tube), and experimented with different spacing, and adding pieces of card with holes in them to act as waterhouse stops. Wound

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread DONALD MILLER
Thanks for bringing those issues to bear. I think that you have a valid concern. However in looking at the spectral response on the Kodak Azo data sheet it does show a marked decrease at the 450-475 nm level. I do expose Azo (contact print) with the use of a 300 watt R40 flood. I do not have the sp

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and KodakAzo papers

2003-02-01 Thread Robert Stoddard
Aren't there other issues concerning the image quality that haven't been addressed? I can think of: (1) The enlarging lens must not only have the ability to transmit the UV radiations which are to expose the paper, it must have the ability to form a high quality, well-focused image in the wave

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread DONALD MILLER
Thanks John, I appreciate all of the information on the El Nikor transmission capabilities. I will look forward to the layout of the bulbs in your lampsource. I have located a source on the east coast that makes lamps for UV curing and they have the capability to target a given UV range. They indic

Re: [Cameramakers] Re: making lens?

2003-02-01 Thread JohnSiskin
I don't believe that there is a copy of the article available on line. I have a pdf file the magazine sent me before publication. If anyone wants a copy please send me an e-mail address, I'll send it along. I think it does a good job of providing the necessary info to go ahead with a project. Bu

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread John Cremati
  Donald, Here are some of the treads on the discussion of UV transmission thru El- Nikor glass from the Alternative Photo list.. I hope this will help...    Please keep me informed of your progress as I am extremely interested.  I kind of dropped the ball after gett

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread DONALD MILLER
The spectrum of UV that this would involve are in the 350-450 nm range.  Robert Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Further comment, following my previous one! The below listed wavelengths do pass through many glasses. Focusing will be somewhat of a problem, though you might be able to something sim

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread Robert Mueller
Further comment, following my previous one! The below listed wavelengths do pass through many glasses. Focusing will be somewhat of a problem, though you might be able to something similar to what is do for IR photography; find the right shift of focus, do it in the visible and then make the

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread Robert Mueller
It depends how far into the UV you go. Many glasses transmit a fair amount of near UV. Which wavelength is needed for this process? Bob At 07:15 01.02.03 -0800, you wrote: If I remember right,  UV doesn't like to pass through GLASS.   Gene - Original Message - From: DONALD MILLER To:

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread DONALD MILLER
Thanks John for this information. It helps move things along a little, still need to figure out the lamps that I will be using. Durst Pro indicated that they were using a 1000 watt source on the 5X7 that they were going to release. So possibly two 6 inch HID lamps. Need to figure the configuration

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread John Cremati
Hi Donald, The El Nikors will pass the UV light in the necessary range... other lenses will not.. .. There are several threads concerning this on The Alternative Photo list...The El Nikors use a special glass that does not filter UV like the others... We went as far as putting the lens on

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread DONALD MILLER
Thanks for your input everyone. I did speak with the people at Durst Pro yesterday and they are bringing to market in March a 5X7 enlarger that will be capable of enlarging both pt-pd and azo. The light source is primarily UV and is only suitable for the emulsions that I have listed. The cost of th

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread Andy Buck
Aside from the glass issue, unless you've got a lot of time and a cement column for your enlarger it won't work. With many UV bulbs 1"-2" from the Pt/Pd paper, the exposuers take minutes. However, I have known people to enlarge to Azo: 2-1/4 negs to 9" prints, and that seemed to work. The exposures

Re: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread Gene Johnson
If I remember right,  UV doesn't like to pass through GLASS.   Gene - Original Message - From: DONALD MILLER To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: [Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak A

[Cameramakers] Light source for enlarging onto platinum-paladium and Kodak Azo papers

2003-02-01 Thread DONALD MILLER
I am working on development of a light source to allow enlarging of images onto pt-pd and Azo papers. These papers need a light source in the upper UV band (350-475 nm). The other consideration are that these emulsions are markedly slower then conventional enlarging papers. I have two immediate con