Hi, When M. Ober say the official material is of poor quality. i am French and really surprise. I saw Xavier Leroy teach caml at the CNAM in france, and he know how to teach. The official document is not an ocaml curse, that's right. (The inria is not pay for that ) I totally agree that it would be pleasant to have more documentation on Ocaml, especially if you don't have ocaml lesson. The reader are a little like you M. Ober, they like good quality and when a book is not as good as they like, they have the same reaction as you. I am disappointed because it is not the better encouragement. Different views and usages of the language seems to me better than too few. I will be happy to read article or book from you Sincerely Gilles FALCON Xavier Leroy a écrit : There must be some reason why the manual and other materials on the official site are of such poor quality. I've thought a bit about it, and the only reason I see is that the authors do not have a feel for what it takes to learn/understand/use that language. They obviously know it all through, but that's still far removed from being able to explain it to someone else. I don't know, of course, how it is that one understands something "well" yet is not able to explain it to somebody else. To me, that's very fragile knowledge.Because we are autistic morons who lack your rock-solid knowledge, if I properly catch your (rather insulting) drift?At the very least, you're confusing "to be able" with "to intend to". The "tutorial" part of the OCaml reference manual was a quick job targeted at readers who already know functional programming and just want a quick overview of what's standard and what's different in OCaml. Maybe that shouldn't be titled "tutorial" at all. Teaching functional programming in OCaml to beginners is a rather different job, for which they are plenty of good books already. Most of them happen to be in French for various reasons: O'Reilly's refusal to publish the English translation of the Chailloux-Manoury-Pagano book; the Hickey-Rentsch controversy, etc. But, yes, some talented teachers invested huge amounts of time in writing good intro to Caml programming books. Don't brush their efforts aside. One last word to you, that Xah Lee troll, and anyone else on this list: if you're not happy with the existing material, write something better. Everyone will thank you and you'll get to better appreciate the difficulty of the task. - Xavier Leroy _______________________________________________ Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management: http://yquem.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/caml-list Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs |
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