Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-07-10 Thread Tommy Pauly
ave > > > From: David Bird [mailto:db...@google.com <mailto:db...@google.com>] > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:39 AM > To: Tommy Pauly > Cc: Dave Dolson; Eric Vyncke (evyncke); captive-portals@ietf.org > <mailto:captive-portals@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [Capt

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-07-10 Thread Tommy Pauly
>] > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 9:15 PM > To: Dave Dolson > Cc: Eric Vyncke (evyncke); captive-portals@ietf.org > <mailto:captive-portals@ietf.org>; David Bird > Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal" > > > > &g

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-07-10 Thread Dave Dolson
: Dave Dolson; Eric Vyncke (evyncke); captive-portals@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal" On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Tommy Pauly mailto:tpa...@apple.com>> wrote: [snip] The idea with explicit PvD discovery is that it would, as a

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-07-10 Thread Dave Dolson
”. This ought to speed up network association. -Dave From: tpa...@apple.com [mailto:tpa...@apple.com] Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 9:15 PM To: Dave Dolson Cc: Eric Vyncke (evyncke); captive-portals@ietf.org; David Bird Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal&qu

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-07-08 Thread Tommy Pauly
; -Dave > > > > From: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) [mailto:evyn...@cisco.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 8:27 PM > To: Dave Dolson; captive-portals@ietf.org > Cc: David Bird > Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal" > > At le

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-06-27 Thread Dave Dolson
From: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) [mailto:evyn...@cisco.com] Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 8:27 PM To: Dave Dolson; captive-portals@ietf.org Cc: David Bird Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal" At least Erik Kline and myself are following the captive-p

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-06-25 Thread Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
: "captive-portals@ietf.org" Cc: David Bird Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal" [resend with fewer recipients to avoid mailing list problems] To echo David’s request, > If the authors of the PvD concept (re-)present their I-D to the mai

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-06-23 Thread Dave Dolson
une 14, 2017 9:36 AM To: Erik Kline Cc: Gunther Nitzsche; Mark Townsley; Heiko Folkerts; Martin Thomson; captive-portals@ietf.org; Livingood, Jason; Herzig, Willi; Warren Kumari; Dave Dolson Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal" On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 a

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-06-16 Thread Vincent van Dam
> Some observations, and questions for the working group. > > I'm not sure we have enough input on whether 511 is useful or not. There > seemed to be some suggestion > it would help, and some that it wouldn't. Perhaps one question we could ask > is whether it's harmful? And > if we agree it's

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-06-12 Thread Michael Richardson
Erik Kline wrote: > Some observations, and questions for the working group. > I'm not sure we have enough input on whether 511 is useful or not. > There seemed to be some suggestion it would help, and some that it > wouldn't. Perhaps one question we could ask is whether it's harm

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-06-06 Thread Gunther Nitzsche
On 02.06.2017 14:47, Livingood, Jason wrote: > [JL] But let me summarize the malware/hacked IoT device use case. A computing > device is compromised and being used as part of a DDoS attack (a la the Dyn > attack) or sending spam or doing keylogging or whatever. One alternative is > to put them i

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-06-05 Thread Martin Thomson
On 2 June 2017 at 22:47, Livingood, Jason wrote: > I’m merely confirming that others share the same use case specified by the > German Federal Office for Information Security. Yeah, I can agree that this is a very common desire. And I'm glad that it's the use case that matters, because I believ

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-06-02 Thread Livingood, Jason
On 5/31/17, 9:07 PM, "Martin Thomson" wrote: On 1 June 2017 at 08:23, Livingood, Jason wrote: > In any case, this is very much in scope IMO – so agree with others here. With the rise of IoT compromises the need for these sorts of notifications will only rise and will be critical to ma

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-05-31 Thread Martin Thomson
On 1 June 2017 at 08:23, Livingood, Jason wrote: > In any case, this is very much in scope IMO – so agree with others here. With > the rise of IoT compromises the need for these sorts of notifications will > only rise and will be critical to maintaining the security & integrity of the > Interne

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-05-31 Thread Livingood, Jason
> > -Original Message- > From: Captive-portals [mailto:captive-portals-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Heiko Folkerts > Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 8:43 AM > To: captive-portals@ietf.org > Cc: Herzig, Willi; Gunther Nitzsche > Subject: [Cap

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-05-18 Thread Vincent van Dam
mei 2017 14:14 Aan: David Bird CC: Heiko Folkerts; captive-portals@ietf.org; Herzig, Willi Onderwerp: Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal" Hello, thanks for your reply. Let me argue against ..:) On 17.05.2017 17:11, David Bird wrote: > > > We need to stop the

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-05-18 Thread Dave Dolson
, May 18, 2017 8:14 AM To: David Bird Cc: Heiko Folkerts; captive-portals@ietf.org; Herzig, Willi Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal" Hello, thanks for your reply. Let me argue against ..:) On 17.05.2017 17:11, David Bird wrote: > > > We n

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-05-18 Thread Gunther Nitzsche
Hello, thanks for your reply. Let me argue against ..:) On 17.05.2017 17:11, David Bird wrote: > > > We need to stop the 443 redirecting! > > Thus far, I don't see any reason why ICMP wouldn't work. In fact, if > *no* ICMP worked, some basic networking stops working (general dest > unreach, MTU d

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-05-16 Thread Gunther Nitzsche
Hello everybody, On 03.05.2017 14:42, Heiko Folkerts wrote: >Hi everybody, I visited the capport WG the first time in Chicago. Thank you very much for the presentations! >Afterwards I had a very brief chat with Martin about a use case, I name “carrier grade captive portals”. >As a result I want t

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-05-10 Thread Michael Richardson
Mark Nottingham wrote: > That's useful as long as the client is a human is behind a browser. It > can also break lots of stuff... Exactly why the ICMP is useful :-) -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-05-07 Thread Mark Nottingham
gt; > only a WiFi (layer 2) problem. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Captive-portals [mailto:captive-portals-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > > Of Heiko Folkerts > > Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 8:43 AM > > To: captive-portals@ietf.org > >

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-05-04 Thread Warren Kumari
; To: captive-portals@ietf.org > Cc: Herzig, Willi; Gunther Nitzsche > Subject: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal" > > Hi everybody, > > I visited the capport WG the first time in Chicago. Thank you very much for > the presentations! Afterwar

Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-05-03 Thread Dave Dolson
Folkerts Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 8:43 AM To: captive-portals@ietf.org Cc: Herzig, Willi; Gunther Nitzsche Subject: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal" Hi everybody, I visited the capport WG the first time in Chicago. Thank you very much for the presentations!

[Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"

2017-05-03 Thread Heiko Folkerts
Hi everybody, I visited the capport WG the first time in Chicago. Thank you very much for the presentations! Afterwards I had a very brief chat with Martin about a use case, I name “carrier grade captive portals”. As a result I want to present this use case to you on this mailing list: *Backgr